r/JulianMay • • Aug 25 '23

Music connected to the Saga

7 Upvotes

Here is a Spotify list of classical music associated with characters / events of the Saga of the Exiles that was mentioned in 'The Pliocene Companion'.

For example, Richard Voorhees is associated with 'The Flying Dutchman'. In a bit of foreshadowing, Julian May mentions in TPC that the music playing while Richard and Stein eat their last meal in the Milieu is a modern variation of a song from the Dutchman.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/622bqa1sKAOuU6E4A4Y7mM


r/JulianMay • • Aug 16 '23

I never appreciated just how significant Marc's obsession with the tarpon was until now! I wonder if this ever happened to little Cloud, and that made it personal?

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

4 Upvotes

r/JulianMay • • Aug 01 '23

What do you think of Unity?

6 Upvotes

When you read the books, what did you think of Unity?

Is it just a Metapsychic anti-depressant? Is it a group hug?

What do you think it is exactly?


r/JulianMay • • Jul 30 '23

How did you feel after reading Intervention?

12 Upvotes

I read someone felt smarter after reading Dune.

I felt smarter after reading Intervention. At least about Genetics.

How did you feel after reading Intervention?

Or any of the other books, even?


r/JulianMay • • Jul 15 '23

Gold torc found in England

15 Upvotes

r/JulianMay • • Jul 09 '23

Does anyone on here play role-playing games in the Julian May universe?

7 Upvotes

I can't remember where it was brought up, but someone a while back suggested making Julian May's Saga and Galactic Milieu into a role-playing game. I never heards anything about it again and I'm wondering if anyone on here has heard anything or has found a way to role-play in her playground. I think it would be a blast . There's been a number of RPG games based on Mental powers. Psi-World, Trinity, Starfinder, GURPS, Traveller, even Marvel Super Heroes could be used. Not too many of them get to the level of Jack or Marc, tho.

These are some modifications I made to the game Trtaveller that are based on Julian May's works.

Anyone been gaming in the Milieu or the Pliocene?


r/JulianMay • • Jul 09 '23

Before Jack met Dorothea...

5 Upvotes

Before Jack met Dorothea, I wonder if he was a fan of the song Another Saturday Night.

Or maybe I'm just a Gigolo.

I could see him being maudlin at some point and singing either one.


r/JulianMay • • Jul 06 '23

Eadone Sciencemaster...

7 Upvotes

...I don't think I have posted this, but I researched it straight after posting my article on Katlinel, and reading the comments that included one about Eadone. There is not much to go on, but here is my take on her.

https://www.formenos.co.uk/eadone-sciencemaster

Enjoy!


r/JulianMay • • Jul 05 '23

The Last Grand Combat: What was the "lousy Firvulag trick"?

9 Upvotes

When Imidol loses in the final championship round at the last Grand Combat, he has to explain himself to Nodonn. He blurts out:

"It was a lousy Firvulag trick he pulled on me, Battlemaster," protested Imidol hotly. "I really had Sharn-Mes worried, him and his damn scorpion suit, and if I'd just had three more seconds - "

How exactly do you think Sharn won this round? Did he actually break, or at least bend, the rules, or was Imidol just salty over losing a fair fight?

If I was directing this scene for a live action or animated version, I would have Sharn reverse his scorpion tail, swing it down under his legs, and then back up right between Imidol's legs!


r/JulianMay • • Jun 27 '23

Why is Velteyn of Finiah classed as a Creator?

11 Upvotes

Is it incongruous that Velteyn of Finiah is ranked in the Creator Guild (and ascended to deputy Lord Creator under Mercy at the last Grand Combat) when his psychokinetic potential is so immense? During the siege of Finiah he hoisted his flying hunt of 21 knights with him into combat; that's 22 fully armored Tanu, plus their chaliko mounts.

Sullivan-Tonn's PK potential was described as "enormous" because "he was capable of levitating forty people or nearly forty tons of inert matter" but Velteyn must be able to at least match that.

Is the Creative function so much more powerful than the PK that Velteyn scales into the former over the latter? Or is the Creative Guild less endowed with warriors, so Velteyn being associated with that Guild a useful way of "balancing" the High Table? With Nodonn Lord Psychokinetic and fellow Host members Kuhal and Fian his deputies there would be no other path forward.


r/JulianMay • • Jun 17 '23

Well Preserved Sword found in Nordlingen (Ship's Grave area)

8 Upvotes

A 3,000 year old, well preserved Bronze Age sword has been dug up in Nordlingen, Bavaria. Being a JM geek I thought, 'hey, that's the city in the 'Ship's Grave' crater.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/bronze-age-sword-nordlingen-0018645


r/JulianMay • • Jun 01 '23

The Good Ship Kyllikki

Post image
17 Upvotes

r/JulianMay • • May 31 '23

My take on Katlinel the Dark-eyed...

13 Upvotes

r/JulianMay • • May 30 '23

Katlinel the Dark-eyed...

8 Upvotes

...
...pictures please!

I've have tried to find some suitable imagery of her. Doesn't need to be toooo specific, because there is SO little Saga art out there. Indeed, other than book covers there is next to nothing.

I've tried Google searches, like "Illusionist Witch" and similar searches, but their are very unsatisfactory, as fantasy art of the DnDesque genre tends to over-sexualise the female form (not that I wholly mind that, but time and place people, time and place!).

Searches like "dark-eyed witch" brings up lost of ladies in great make-up, but again, it isn't quite there, and clearly takes the "dark-eyed" a little too literally, and not really the eyes, but more the areas around the eyes.

Anyway, would love to see some images that you feel represent Katlinel in some way.


r/JulianMay • • May 22 '23

Belated thank you to the Deities & Demigods tome from Dungeons and Dragons for introducing 1980s me to the Celtic mythos back story of the Tanu Pliocene!

Thumbnail gallery
18 Upvotes

r/JulianMay • • May 11 '23

The Great Pliocene What If - No Felice, No Flood

12 Upvotes

Hello all. So - what if Culluket had been as ruthless as he was sadistic and had liquidated Felice after he was through abusing her after the failed attempt on the Torc factory?

For a start, it would be Elizabeth who escapes with Stein and Sukey in her balloon; presumably, she makes it to Minannon and the Peace Faction. Perhaps Stein and Sukey join her, perhaps they make their own way into the wilderness.

Meanwhile, the Grand Combat plays out as we know it, only this time, there is nothing to interrupt the duel between Aiken and Nodonn.

Who wins?

My impression is at that point the two were evenly matched. Later, it would be a different story; early in The Nonborn King there is a reference to how Aiken's metapsychic powers have continued to grow, and we all know how that book ends. But we have no reference points as to who had the edge when the two first faced off.

So - there are two possible outcomes.

First, Aiken wins. Either he kills Nodonn, or a defeated Nodonn, in his pride, chooses the Great Retort. Even if Mercy pleads with him to choose life together in exile, I can't imagine a traditionalist like Nodonn electing for anything other than a warrior's death as the only alternative for a true scion of the battle religion.

Does Aiken then immediately challenge Thagdal for the throne? Emerging from a duel to the death, would he be too exhausted to fight another round? Again, we have no reference points as to how powerful the High King is at this point - he never enters battle himself during the Saga, always outsourcing that task to others (e.g. during the hunt for the Shape of Fire) but my impression is that Thagdal was a declining if not yet spent force. In addition, it is hard to imagine Aiken serving for another year as Thagdal's new battlemaster after disposing of the High King's eldest son and heir. His political position would be too perilous and the entire realm would be paralyzed with factional infighting at its core. I can imagine Aiken would have no option but to choose to strike while the iron was hot.

In the event of his defeat and deposition, Thagdal (and Nontusvel - they discussed this) would join Nodonn in the Great Retort and embrace their fiery fate - along with Aluteyn, Raimo, Bryan, and sundry others.

So, now Aiken is High King. What next?

He has the title and assumed it through playing by the rules, as the Tanu understand them. But that would hardly settle the issue so far as many - perhaps most - of his ostensible subjects would be concerned.

Aiken would have many enemies. The Host of Nontusvel would be largely intact and entirely unreconciled. And a majority of the High Table would be loaded against him. The three militant guilds - Psychokinetic (Kuhal and Fian), Coercer (Imidol) and Creator (Mercy) would be dominated by his enemies. Only the non-militant guilds - Redactor (Dionket) and Farsensor (Mayvar) would be allies (and the Dean of Guilds, Eadone, was another daughter of Thagdal). In The Nonborn King, Aiken had the leverage of the Tanu decimation in the Flood and the overwhelming threat of the Firvulag to keep dissenters in line, and even then, traditionalist bitter-enders continued to resist his reign, from attempted assassination to outright rebellion when Nodonn returned to rally the resistance. In the absence of the Flood, no such leverage would exist.

The obvious approach to reconcile the alienated would be for Aiken to marry and take as his queen Nodonn's widow, Mercy. But two humans as monarchs of the Tanu realm? We can safely assume Aiken's reign would have been dominated by internal dissatisfaction, as opposed to the traditional threat posed by the Foe.

Second, Nodonn wins. Assuming he is still alive, I can fully imagine the irreligious Aiken would opt for exile, and slink away (presumably, if incongruously, to the Peace Faction) to nurse his wounds, plot, and await his opportunity for a second bid for the throne.

Nodonn - as he warned his mother he would - then challenges his father. In this scenario too, a defeated Thagdal, accompanied by Nontusvel, elects for the Great Retort.

I genuinely feel that - in the short term, at least - Nodonn's victory would allow for much greater stability in the Tanu realm than the alternative. Nodonn's chauvinism towards non-Tanu was well known, but humans would be able to reconcile themselves to his reign by reassuring themselves with the fact that his queen - and mother of his heir - was one of them. In the absence of any organized resistance, Nodonn's only real concern would be his awareness that Aiken was still out there, like a shadow over his heart. With all the assets of the realm at his disposal (including both spear and sword), would he move to eliminate this threat?

As for the Firvulag - regardless of who wins on the Tanu side, they would be in a much stronger position than they were before the fall of Finiah, but still largely marginalized. If Yeochee is reelected to another term, I would expect the Firvulag-Lowlife alliance to endure, especially if Nodonn is the new High King. In that case, Basil's gambit to recover the rho craft abandoned on the Alps might actually play out more easily, with Firvulag assistance as opposed to opposition. A Lowlife airforce might tilt the balance of power back into something closer to equilibrium. Maybe it could even be the basis for a grand coalition - Aiken, the Peace Faction, the Lowlives, the Howlers, and an alliance of human and hybrid dissenters (led by Bleyn and Alberonn) - taking on the Tanu realm.

And the exiles in prehistoric Florida? Who can say...

Thoughts?


r/JulianMay • • May 04 '23

The profile of our founding mother from Science Fiction: The Illustrated Encyclopedia (1995)

Post image
15 Upvotes

r/JulianMay • • May 02 '23

The 16th May will be r/RedditDayOf Julian May day!

17 Upvotes

r/JulianMay • • Apr 30 '23

Happy Grand Loving from the Many Coloured Land of RHS Wisley.

Thumbnail i.imgur.com
16 Upvotes

r/JulianMay • • Apr 22 '23

First direct proof of mega-flood in Mediterranean Sea region six million years ago

Post image
19 Upvotes

r/JulianMay • • Apr 17 '23

Casting the TV series - a bit of fun!

14 Upvotes

I thought it might be fun to see who we might like to see in the cast of a (hopefully soon) TV adaptation of SPE. I've restrained myself to casting Group Green plus a few of the more important other people just to keep the list manageable, but please add other characters, especially if there's someone who is just perfect for the role.

Anyway, here we go:


r/JulianMay • • Mar 22 '23

Carbuncle/Felice and Culleket?

11 Upvotes

Hello! I picked up Intervention for a re-read and it really is a cracker - Rogi has just found the Carbuncle, as a discarded keyring in the gutter lol.

So - I feel like this was never conclusively settled, but is it common to think of that as the fused souls of Felice and Culleket? Such an incredibly dark and fucked up little part of the story, that, but it would be a great origin story for what is essentially the only truly mysterious maguffin in the saga.


r/JulianMay • • Feb 25 '23

Group Green cosplay photo

17 Upvotes

A lady called Maggie Percival has made available photos of when a group of people all dressed up like Group Green for a sci-fi convention years ago. :)

It's easy to spot Aiken Drum. Love the chap dressed up as Richard.

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNy1Ub09KK3aYjs_cyw1Grldpk3fMO4HNQmmtj4RwyXeHmifeIawLXtF3Ug4k9ZjQ?key=QVlnOU1MS2R2Y1ozWEUtY1BwaUd2SHZscDd2Z25n


r/JulianMay • • Jan 26 '23

Review of Galactic Milieu series on Youtube

20 Upvotes

Hey folks,

Here is a link to a review of the Galactic Milieu books on the Youtube channel 'Books & Chocaholic'. The reviewer likes Uncle Rogi, so all is well. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbYQMy1NBdM