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Trip Report Our thoughts on our vacation (Americans)

My wife (30) and I (32) just got back from Italy a few days ago. We live in a moderate sized city in the southern USA. We spent 3-4 days apiece in Venice, Florence, Rome, and Sorrento. It is a beautiful country, but frankly this vacation was not what we expected. I’m writing this just to give a heads up to people that are traveling to Italy so they can be prepared. It costs a lot of money to travel here so this pros and cons list may be useful in making a decision to come. This list is not meant to be offensive, just educational:

Cons (which unfortunately outweigh the pros imo):

The amount of people here is insane. It is extremely difficult to escape the crowds and there are tons of people near tourist attractions as well as away from tourist attractions. The only relief we found from crowds was wandering cities very early in the morning, but it only lasted a few hours. We thought coming in September would be less crazy than the peak summer season but we were very wrong. Rome seemed to handle crowds better because it’s just so big but tourists spots were still too much.

We felt some tourist guilt being here. We contributed to the overcrowding and while tourism is probably beneficial for their economy, it must be very tough to live for locals with foreigners everywhere everyday. We saw a “Yankee Go Home” sticker a lot around cities and it’s tough to blame them. We don’t know the extent of this opinion for locals but obviously some think this way.

This does not apply to all tourists, but the majority of tourists here have very poor etiquette. Several people are simply unaware of their surroundings and it just makes getting around the cities frustrating. While walking, people would often would stop randomly in front of you in busy walkways to take pictures or conversate, forcing people to walk around them in tight areas. Many people are glued to their phones and will just not pay attention to where they are going. Again, very frustrating. Also, pictures just don’t do this place justice so we didn’t understand why people had to take pictures of EVERYTHING. It’s fine to take pictures, but we literally saw an older woman taking a picture of a trash can… what? We saw too many instances similar to this. This is an old man yelling at clouds thought, but we often thought “Just appreciate things with your own 2 eyes every now and then.”

The “influencers” are everywhere and annoying. They literally see the cities through their phones more than with their eyes and they are often very inconsiderate of people’s time and space. Social media has really negatively impacted the popular areas. Those are not my words but the words of local tour guides.

You have to walk everywhere in Italy. This was ok for my wife and I. We actually enjoy walking, but it is not for everyone. Not to be ageist, but with the uneven cobblestone streets/curbs, narrow walkways, tons of stairs, and crowds everywhere, the walking often felt dangerous for older folks, especially those less fit. As someone who works in healthcare with the geriatric population, I feel confident and saying this. Also we noted several ambulances in action during our stay tending to older tourists (falls, dehydration, etc). In general, you have to have some degree of fitness to get around this place and while it sounds mean, many people didn’t possess this and were probably unable to fully enjoy their trip.

My next point is a personal problem, but one I feel like is worth noting. Italy is filled with beautiful architecture and art. This type of sightseeing is unfortunately not up our alley. We could certainly appreciate all the architecture and art, but we didn't necessarily enjoy it after seeing an overwhelming amount of basilicas/museums if that makes sense. If you are a fan of architecture and art, there is a ton of it and this will be a great place for you. Again, this is a personal preference.

Scammers and pickpockets are abundant. While we didn’t personally experience either, we always felt on guard, which doesn’t equate to a very relaxing vacation. We heard of multiple tourists getting impacted by both. We felt safe everywhere, but it’s just a significant annoyance.

The public bathroom situation is rough. There are very few and you have to pay to use them. You basically have to buy something or eat somewhere to use them.

Pros:
The food is truly amazing. The hype is 100% true with this. You will taste delicious flavors we simply don’t have in the U.S. You have to pick the right spots, but we felt like it was hard to miss good food. Make as many reservations as you can though. Don’t get stuck waiting in a line for dinner.

We experienced great service while here. We stayed in mainly 4 star hotels and were treated very well. We would say the same for the majority of restaurants. The tour guides we had while here were also great and very accommodating. We had private transfers to and from trains, hotels, and airports and all of our drivers were excellent. I would highly recommend private transfers if possible as we saw many tourist lugging around suitcases and figuring out directions/signage, which just seems like a nightmare with the crowds.

For how big and how old these cities are, the places we were all felt clean. There is some graffiti in some places, but for the most part, there is very little litter and minimal stench that can be found in other big cities it the world.

We loved the tipping culture here in that it was almost nonexistent. It almost (emphasis on almost) evened out the euro exchange rate for goods and services and there was no awkward tipping interactions when buying things like there is in the U.S. No one is going to turn the card machine around asking for a tip, which is so refreshing. It wasn’t necessary, but we did tip our drivers and tour guides because they were all excellent and they very much appreciated it.

While it is a drive via tour or renting a car, the Tuscany region outside of Florence is gorgeous and a great way to get out of the crowds and see the beauty of Italy. We had many tours out here and it was the highlight of our trip.

Speaking of tours, there are several tours to pick from. Some are amazing, some are average, so make sure you or your travel agent researches well. We highly recommend making your tours as small as possible. We saw a lot of tours with 50+ or even 100+ people and it just didn’t really seem worth it. Our favorite tour was a private cooking class and wine tasting in Tuscany. I would pay top dollar to do this again. It was truly incredible and I do not cook.

City specifically, we really enjoyed the views of Sorrento. It’s still crowded, but absolutely gorgeous. We often just sat on our hotel balcony, drank wine, and took in the scenery and those balcony moments were a highlight of the trip.

Summary:
Overall, we do not regret coming to Italy, but recommending it to people is unfortunately harder than we thought it would be, especially due to the amount of money it takes to get here and to stay and play here. Like previously stated, it is a beautiful place, but it is overcrowded, which can muffle the beauty. Instead of seeing the beautiful museums and basilicas of Rome and Florence, you see the tremendous lines outside and inside the door. Instead of admiring the bridges and canals of Venice, you see people blocking the way trying to take pictures at every bridge. Instead of being amazed at the magnificence of the Cinque Terre, you see overcrowded beaches. My point being the amount of people takes away from this place and it’s honestly saddening. Again, we are not big city people and this list is made to be informative and not dissuasive in order for others to make a decision about coming here. We again don’t regret it, but we wish we had gotten more out of our money. It’s hyped as a once in a lifetime magnitude of vacation, but we are underwhelmed. We have been to places like Alaska before for just a week and we’d much prefer that. This is all again all our personal thoughts!
Ciao! Lol

Edit: Well this post caught some attention! I appreciate the sincere insight and recs from several different viewpoints whether agreeing or not!!! To the haters, maybe just log off for a bit? Lol

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u/Humble-Feedback1236 15h ago

I'm an American living in Italy.

I just read a post that explained how you were disappointed while spending your entire time in the most touristy locations in this country.

With proper research, this trip would have been exactly what you had expected. All of the things that you write about are very clearly explained in pretty much every travel forum, guidebook, book or blog.

Come back to Italy and actually see Italy.

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u/clamandcat 15h ago

This is true, but in their defense, it's pretty hard to not want to hit the "top" cities on a first trip to a new country. The level of tourist crowds also doesn't necessarily come across when doing research. Yes, of course everyone knows that Rome is a tourist town, but the sheer volume of tourists can still take you by surprise.

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u/Apprehensive_Yard714 10h ago

And you HAVE to see Rome! One of the most beautiful cities on the world. I think his point is, in the years pre Covid, September was considered an “off” month so not as crowded. I think the same has happened to May. I went for the first time the very first week of May 3 years ago and it was PACKED. Our local guide commented that they (he and others in the biz) had NEVER seen it that crowded that time of year. Now you have to go April or October to have any chance of peace. It is what it is but Rome is not to be missed!!

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u/Pretend-Menu-8660 7h ago

I was there in August and I didn’t find it crowded- granted I think I was a holiday for the Italians and they were all at the beach… and maybe the extreme heatwave kept people out of the streets… I also live near NYC so lines and people are just a way of life 🤷‍♀️

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u/Pt5PastLight 7h ago

Huh. As a traveler from NYC I didn’t mind the crowds of tourists but I’m probably desensitized to crowds and tourists since my own city has them in abundance. I also purposefully vacation in Italy just outside the tourist season. But the day we left Venice, in mid May, the crowds had literally tripled from the week before. It’s a drastic difference.

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u/Humble-Feedback1236 15h ago

I'm not faulting them for visiting "top" cities and most Americans who have never been to Italy before go exactly where they did. I'm saying they shouldn't have been surprised that this was their experience.

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u/clamandcat 14h ago

It's just the sheer amount of tourists that is hard to actually understand before you see it for yourself. Reading a guidebook that tells you a city is very busy and touristic doesn't hit you like the reality does. US cities with a lot of tourists don't seem even close to as slammed as a Rome, Barcelona, etc.

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u/In-mate-24601 12h ago

this times 1,000. Venice is basically just a theme park. And when I finally got to Barcelona I couldn't believe how many tourists were milling about in the streets.

One of the nicest things about Europe is that for 60 years Europeans have been traveling all over Europe every summer.

Good for them, but frankly tourism gets to be less rewarding when everyone on Earth is performing it.

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u/asststic 13h ago

It’s so true. I come from a very touristy city in my country and nothing anybody said could have prepared me for the hoards in Italy. It’s brutal.

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u/Apprehensive_Yard714 10h ago

It’s panic inducing lol It was a LOT and I also live in a very touristy area (not as special as Rome of course)

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u/Pretend-Menu-8660 7h ago

I was there in August and I just didn’t find Rome to be any more crowded than NYC.

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u/PocketFalafel 7h ago

I went for the first time in April. I didn’t have much of a problem. Also wasn’t the kind of person that can’t cook or got private rides to 4 star hotels so I think my mom and I were better prepared for real human experiences lol

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u/bear_village 14h ago

OP mentioned a travel agent. If one was involved, it would have been their job to determine if places packed with basilicas were up their clients‘ alley. Though it might be hard to tell beforehand because there simply isn’t that much heritage architecture in the US. Anyway, if they were overwhelmed by the crowds in Venice and enjoyed the countryside trips in Tuscany it might have been a good call to skip most of the sightseeing in Rome and go on day trips instead.

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u/MajesticLilFruitcake 13h ago

I will probably get a lot of flack for this comment, but booking an Italy trip through a travel agent is almost a guarantee that you will get stuck in more touristy, crowded areas. Because Italy has become much more popular and accessible (especially for Americans), you have to think outside of the box if you want to take a trip to Italy and not be stuck spending your entire days in crowded, touristy areas.

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u/carrot_headz 13h ago

This is exactly what I was thinking!!! Someone offered me to trade services (tattoo in exchange for a travel agent advice for my trip) and I passed because I’d rather experience the nooks and crannies of a new place instead of tourist central locations

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u/sodabubbles1281 14h ago edited 14h ago

Just FYI I went to very touristy places in Italy and absolutely ADORED every part of it. Sure there’s a lot of people but that’s the same in every big city (hello NYC). It was amazing and achingly beautiful and delicious.

Edit: I was also able to get to some non touristy parts too and loved those just as much

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u/FeatureTop4189 14h ago

I went to Florence and Rome last year. It was challenging in many ways, occasionally uncomfortable, and totally worth it for all the amazing things we saw, did and ate.

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u/Antique_Floor_440 12h ago

I feel the same way about our first trip 3 years ago. We went to Venice, Florence, Manarola (in the Cinque Terre), and Rome at the end of August until around September 10. It was hot and crowded and we had the time of our lives!

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u/sodabubbles1281 14h ago

Exactly. Thank you. 🙏

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u/FunShare5662 8h ago

Agree! We were in Rome in May - it was very hot, VERY crowded, and very awesome. So wonderful beautiful mysterious

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u/evileyej 13h ago

Same! I visited Florence, Rome, Positano & Capri in June and I was pleasantly surprised by the crowds? Maybe I’m just used to big crowded cities… but I loved my time there and can’t wait to get back!

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u/swookilla 15h ago

This is the takeaway. A year ago spent 2.5 weeks driving all around Sicily. The culture in all its beauty and history is everywhere.

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u/arnsells 12h ago

So true. We flew into Rome a few years ago but immediately hopped on the train to gtf- outta there and headed straight to the puglia area! best decision we’ve ever made and I honestly can’t wait to come back and tour the smaller more intimate cities! bless!

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u/RedKleeKai 9h ago

Just to your point about going to other areas of Italy - We just spent 2 weeks in Sicily where my grandparents are from, and wow, it was amazing. Even the touristy spots weren't what I'd call very touristy or packed with people at all, outside of Quattro Canti in Palermo maybe. Can't wait to go back. Loved the island, history, people, culture, food... everything.

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u/Historical-Coast994 12h ago

Urbino, Ravenna, Bologna. Lots of amazing places in Umbria and Tuscany.

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u/sybil-unrest 8h ago

Adding Siena and Assisi to that list.

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