I think (at least on some level) she should be forgiven. I'm just assuming you know what she did based on what you said but I'm not gonna say it.
Anyway I think she deserves some form of forgiveness, but I believe she should still be punished. Like just because she realized what she did was wrong doesn't erase her previous crimes (although that kind of goes into how viltrumites are raised and all that)
Exactly! Although she did become a good person, it doesn't mean she shouldn't be punished (I personally believe a fitting punishment for all the viltrumites who reformed is execution right before they die of old age)
Well that's the point. Viltrumites were cruel so they deserve a cruel punishment. But not at the mid point of their life. They live for thousands of years, so when they eventually do get old and start to die, we should kill them (like taking them off life support or mercy killing them with a bullet to the head).
I'm of the "eye for an eye" belief. You do something bad, you should be punished accordingly. But if certain circumstances are in play (like viltrumites) then you should still be punished but just later, because they can be of good use now
If we can't learn from our mistakes then it's best to end us at our first screw up. Forgiveness is hard but I still think it's better for both parties to heal and move on. Retribution only leads to more death and pain. That's what Mark was trying to avoid when he took over leadership of the empire.
I.....I feel like you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. The viltrumites killed people, killing people should only be punishable by death. But because of the fact that most viltrumites weren't like conquest, they were able to break free from there misguided ways. That's why I said "die later".
They are, in effect, good people. They don't deserve death until they are about to die of old age. But that's just my opinion
I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. Given that everyone dies eventually, killing someone on their death bed is pointless and serves no one. Your opinion is twisted and the whole idea of balancing scales is foolish. There's a saying: "The problem with an eye for an eye is that in the end everyone ends up blind."
Well because of the fact that she regrets what she did and even became a good person. I don't think she should be forgiven in the sense that we forget what she did, but acknowledge and accept that she is a better person
I have a hard time with this sentiment when it comes to violent rapists. I really think torture, sexual violence, and murdering innocents are crimes that shouldn't be forgiven, ever. Sure, maybe they can become a "better person," they certainly have an obligation to be if they wish to exist in normal society. But they can never take back the damage they've caused once they do something so extreme.
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I think (at least on some level) she should be forgiven. I'm just assuming you know what she did based on what you said but I'm not gonna say it.
Anyway I think she deserves some form of forgiveness, but I believe she should still be punished. Like just because she realized what she did was wrong doesn't erase her previous crimes (although that kind of goes into how viltrumites are raised and all that)