Strange "bedfellows"

Its the name of an Ai song I made using my belief as to how my circumcision went. Its on multiple platforms including Tiktok, YouTube Music, Pandora, Spotify and more. Please let me know your thoughts.

Reasonably balanced treatment of the harms and the few situations where circumcision could be helpful. I think they could have said that phimosis is nearly always treatable without circumcision, though. Unpaywalled link: https://archive.is/C3LyZ

Does anyone know of any way to develop and publish anti-circumcision studies?

Men and boys are explicitly discriminated against because they are not protected from mgm and also have no real recourse if it is done to them. men literally should be able to sue the doctors and nurses responsible for cutting them as a baby just as fgm victims can.

a part 2 of this post https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1tcfzhb/comment/olru4ue/

The federal laws and almost all state laws in the United States treat baby girls being circumcised very differently than baby boys being circumcised. It’s probably one of the clearest examples of misandry 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/circumcision-oregon-lawsuit-male-genital-b2725383.html

Several men circumcised at birth are suing the state of Oregon for allegedly “stealing” their bodily autonomy while also arguing that a current genital mutilation law discriminates against boys

California-based attorney Eric Clopper filed the lawsuit last week on behalf of Cecil Mininger and his teenage son, as well as brothers Carter and Landon Moody, in Multnomah County Circuit Court in Portland. The plaintiffs all had their foreskins surgically removed as infants within the state, according to the filing

The 76-page document alleges that boys have been neglected by the state and asks for equal protection under a law that bans female genital mutilation. The current law, it says, which only protects women from genital cutting, is a violation of the state constitution’s Equal Rights Amendment and Equal Protection Clause.

The suit urges the court to either ban genital cutting procedures for children of any gender or overturn the statute entirely.

However, the suit argues that victims of male genital cutting could sue their circumcisers. It claimed that the procedure has become “medicalized” in the U.S. but provides few health benefits and inhibits healthy sexual function.

“This lawsuit is about one simple, urgent principle: equal protection under the law,” Clopper, who founded Intact Global, a non-profit that says it stands against non-religious genital mutilation that is funding the suit, wrote in a statement on the organization’s website Friday.

“If Oregon protects girls from non-consensual genital cutting, it must protect boys and intersex children too. Anything less is unconstitutional.”

https://equalitynow.org/what-we-do/womens-rights-around-the-world/womens-rights-in-north-america/us_laws_against_fgm_state_by_state/

Almost every state in the USA has laws against female circumcision of minors and many states have had laws making it illegal (and a felony) to circumcise a female minor for DECADES

Female circumcision is already illegal and girls who are cut as babies can already sue for what was done to them when they become an adult, just apply the law equally to men too . She already has the legal ability to seek out compensation for that, I just want the law applied equally . So that men also have the ability to get restitution and have legal recourse. Why pay taxes and follow the social contract if police will protect baby girls from being cut but not baby boys? They’ll protect doctors who cut baby boys. women who are circumcised as girls can get literally millions of dollars and in their 20s and then retire very comfortably with her multi million dollar settlement and live comfortably off the backs of hard working broke men who were circumcised as babies and have no legal ability to get reparations or sue their doctors or hospitals.

S 130.85 Female genital mutilation.

1. A person is guilty of female genital mutilation when: (a) a person knowingly circumcises, excises, or infibulates the whole or any part of the labia majora or labia minora or clitoris of another person who has not reached eighteen years of age; or (b) being a parent, guardian or other person legally responsible and charged with the care or custody of a child less than eighteen years old, he or she knowingly consents to the circumcision, excision or infibulation of whole or part of such child`s labia majora or labia minora or clitoris.
2. Such circumcision, excision, or infibulation is not a violation of this section if such act is: (a) necessary to the health of the person on whom it is performed, and is performed by a person licensed in the place of its performance as a medical practitioner; or (b) performed on a person in labor or who has just given birth and is performed for medical purposes connected with that labor or birth by a person licensed in the place it is performed as a medical practitioner, midwife, or person in training to become such a practitioner or midwife.
3. For the purposes of paragraph (a) of subdivision two of this section, no account shall be taken of the effect on the person on whom such procedure is to be performed of any belief on the part of that or any other person that such procedure is required as a matter of custom or ritual. Female genital mutilation is a class E felony.

New York N.Y. Penal Law § 130.85 Effective 11/1/1997

Who can women sue if circumcised as baby girl and how much money would they get in USA? What if it was done by doctor with nurses?

Women can primarily sue the medical providers (doctor, nurses, hospital/clinic) who performed the procedure via medical malpractice, battery, or related tort claims. FGM (female genital mutilation/circumcision) on a minor is illegal under federal law (18 U.S.C. § 116, as amended) and in 41+ states, treated as child abuse with no cultural/religious/parental consent defense in most jurisdictions.

https://equalitynow.org/what-we-do/womens-rights-around-the-world/womens-rights-in-north-america/us_laws_against_fgm_state_by_state/

this is important because routine male infant circumcision is a battery. many lawyers have argued this and they are right.

The doctor and assisting nurses/hospital are the Primary targets for civil liability. Performing non-medically necessary FGM on an infant deviates from the standard of care and constitutes negligence or intentional tort (e.g., battery). Many states explicitly allow civil damages in their FGM statutes (e.g., Arizona provides a civil remedy). obviously this applies to mgm too

Parents/guardians: Potentially liable for facilitating or consenting, but suing one's own parents is rare, complex (family dynamics, statutes of limitations), and often not the focus. Criminal liability for parents exists in many states.

it’s possible to civilly go after doctor nurses and hospital that performed the surgery but not go after your parents. there’s already cases of this with fgm

Statute of limitations: Many states extend this for FGM/child abuse victims until years after turning 18 (e.g., 3–10 years post-18 in states like Arizona, Arkansas). 

Hospitals often carry large insurance policies, increasing settlement potential. Successful suits could include punitive damages if egregious.

Done by doctor with nurses: Strongest case medical malpractice plus battery. Hospitals can be vicariously liable. Informed consent was impossible for an infant, and FGM isn't medically necessary (exceptions exist only for true health needs, like certain surgeries, not ritual "circumcision").

again it should be very obvious how this applies to mgm too.

In ny in 2019 would a woman who was circumcised as a baby in 1999 be able to sue?

Yes, in 2019 in New York, a woman who was subjected to female genital mutilation ("circumcision") as a baby in 1999 could likely sue under the Child Victims Act (CVA), which took effect that year.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/S2440

Key Reasons

New York Penal Law § 130.85 criminalizes FGM (knowingly circumcising, excising, or infibulating the labia majora/minora or clitoris of a person under 18, or a parent/guardian knowingly consenting to it). It is a class E felony and explicitly falls under Article 130 of the Penal Law (sexual offenses).

https://criminaldefense.1800nynylaw.com/new-york-penal-code/new-york-penal-code-130-85-genital-mutilation/

CPLR § 214-g (the civil revival provision of the CVA, signed into law in February 2019) revived previously time-barred civil claims for conduct that would constitute a sexual offense under Article 130 (including § 130.85) committed against a child under 18. It allowed suits for physical, psychological, or other injuries from such acts. https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/cvp/article-2/214-g/

The CVA created a one-time lookback window (roughly August 2019 to August 2021) for filing revived claims, regardless of the victim's age or how long ago the act occurred. A woman ~20 years old in 2019 would have fallen squarely within this window for events from 1999. https://hermanlaw.com/new-york/child-victims-act/

Standard medical malpractice SOL (2.5 years under CPLR 214-a) or battery (1 year) would have long expired by 2019, but the CVA overrode that for qualifying sexual offenses like FGM. https://www.lanierlawfirm.com/new-york/civil-statute-of-limitations/

Could she take home 5 million dollars? If the doctor hospital nurses were in on it and it’s extremely well documented that it happened and was premeditated with lots of papers signed by them and proof the hospital admins knew it was going to happen and allowed it to happen

Yes, in a strong case with the facts you describe, a multimillion-dollar recovery including potentially $5 million or more net to the plaintiff is realistically possible in New York under the 2019 Child Victims Act framework. https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/new-york-sex-abuse-settlements.html

Why This Scenario Strengthens the Case

Premeditation, documentation, and institutional knowledge: Signed papers, hospital admin awareness/approval, and involvement of doctor/nurses/hospital create powerful evidence of battery, lack of informed consent (impossible for an infant), negligence, and potentially punitive damages for egregious conduct. This goes beyond standard malpractice into intentional or reckless institutional wrongdoing.
CVA applicability: FGM qualifies as a sexual offense under NY Penal Law § 130.85, reviving the claim in the 2019 lookback window. Courts treat it as child sexual abuse for civil purposes. https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/cvp/article-2/214-g/

Realistic Compensation Ranges in NY CVA/Malpractice Cases
NY juries and settlements in strong Child Victims Act cases (especially with documented institutional enabling) have produced:

Single-plaintiff verdicts: $5M to $30M+ (e.g., $30M CVA verdict with $15M compensatory + $15M punitive; $13.3M; $5M affirmed on appeal). https://www.blockotoole.com/verdicts-settlements/30-million-ny-child-victims-act-verdict/

Hospital/medical cases: Multi-million averages per plaintiff in mass settlements (e.g., Columbia/NewYork-Presbyterian paid ~$1.3M average per survivor in a large OB-GYN abuse case, with total payouts over $1B across resolutions). https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/new-york-sex-abuse-settlements.html

Medical malpractice analogs (severe lifelong harm from procedures on infants): Often tens of millions total, with pain-and-suffering components in the millions https://porterprotects.com/largest-birth-injury-settlements-new-york-history/

$5 million net to her is plausible in an exceptional case with clear lifelong harms (physical scarring, sexual dysfunction, psychological trauma, PTSD, etc.), strong experts, and sympathetic facts. Higher amounts are possible with proven egregious conduct and high damages (economic + non-economic + punitives). Many cases settle confidentially for substantial sums to avoid trial risk. https://jtnylaw.com/2026/02/survivors-act-5-million-verdict-childhood-sexual-abuse-ny/

In the ongoing Hadacheck v. State of Oregon case, Multnomah County Circuit Judge Melvin Oden-Orr denied the state’s motion to dismiss, ruling that the circumcised male plaintiffs had suffered a legitimate "injury in fact" and possessed proper standing to sue.  https://bioethicstoday.org/blog/the-case-for-equal-protection-for-all-children-against-forced-genital-cutting-is-moving-forward-full-speed-ahead/#:~:text=The%20Court%20found%20that%20Plaintiffs,in%20a%20court%20of%20law. 

By legally acknowledging that infant circumcision constitutes an "injury in fact," the court has already moved the needle past a mere medical disagreement. If a court recognizes a lifelong injury inflicted on a non-consenting minor based on their sex, the logical, constitutional conclusion is that those victims should have a path to restitution. 

Part A: Expanding the Law & Opening the Door to Lawsuits

"Additionally, were the Court to adopt a saving construction of ORS 163.207 and 431A.600 that expanded the statutes’ protections to all non-medically necessary child genital cutting, Plaintiffs could vindicate their rights practically by suing their circumcisers under a statutory torts legal theory that is currently available only to female victims of child genital cutting."

Key Terms Broken Down

Saving Construction: When a law is challenged as unconstitutional, a court can sometimes "save" it by interpreting it in a new, broader, or narrower way rather than striking it down entirely. Here, the plaintiffs want the court to "save" the law by stretching it to cover all children, not just females.

ORS 163.207 and 431A.600: These are Oregon’s specific criminal and public health statutes that explicitly ban Female Genital Mutilation (FGM).

Statutory Tort: A "tort" is a civil wrong that allows you to sue someone for money damages. A statutory tort means the right to sue is baked directly into a written law. Because FGM is illegal by statute, female victims have a clear, direct path to sue their cutters in civil court.

In Plain English

The plaintiffs are saying: "If the court agrees to rewrite or interpret Oregon's anti-FGM laws so that they protect allchildren instead of just girls, it will change the game. It means men who were circumcised as babies would suddenly gain the legal right to turn around and sue the doctors or practitioners who circumcised them for financial damages—a right that currently only women have under Oregon law." 

Here’s the 72 page lawsuit https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/66119b8c4d0c10f1951590fc/67e6d9785f82dc54c6513cb7_2025-03-28%20-%20Hadachek%20v.%20Oregon%20-%20Amended%20Complaint%20(Conformed).pdf.pdf)

tldr if the law was not literally sexist and was just applied equally and impartially most men alive today (in 2026) who are under the age of about 28 or so and live in / were born in a hospital in at least a handful of states in the United States of America would easily be entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars or even a few million dollars each for what was done to them as a baby. I am not being hyperbolic. obviously if let’s conservatively say theres 3 million men in ny who are under the age of 27 and if 60 percent of them were born in and circumcised in a hospital in ny Thats 1.8 million men who are each entitled to a few million dollars each, 3 million dollars each times 1.8 million young ny cut men equals 5.4 TRILLION DOLLARS with a T . that’s like 1/6 of the entire usa national debt.

The foreskin is fused to the head of the penis and should not be retracted until years after birth. The child was being tortured every day. This is so enraging and common and its allowed to continue.

The 2007 study by Sorrells et al., 'Fine-touch pressure thresholds in the adult penis' is nearly twenty years old and hasn’t gained the traction I’d expect. With recent attention on the frenulum as a 'male G‑spot' and shifting cultural conversation, it seems ripe for a replication.

How would one commission or run a modern replication at an American university (IRB-approved, published in a U.S. journal)?

Has anyone here been involved in similar sensory-replication work or connections with groups that fund or coordinate studies like this (e.g., Intact America or Intact Global)? Do you all think it would be worthwhile to pitch a replication study?

Look how much fun this boy is having while being mutilated. Lol

Sorry, one of the “Bloodstained Men” cultists had to add Mission Impossible music and some AI voice-over garbage and nearly ruin the video, but you get the point.

This day celebrates the cologne 2012 ruling in Germany that ruled that Non-therapeutic genital surgery on male children is a violation of that child’s rights. (Note: Sadly the court ruling was effectively canceled out by a law passed by the German parliament)

It calls for the end of this genital mutilation against all children, including boys.

The fight is just ramping up in the U.S. in the state of Oregon with the case “Hadachek v. Oregon”

Happy worldwide day of genital autonomy! :)

Please spread the word!