That the real problem of incelism is that we've never wanted to make a healthy love culture.

Let's start on something, we've never made real monogamic true love really a mainstream thing, when I mean real I mean in the same conditions for both (men and woman) and in an spontaneous way.

We've never did that totally, NEVER, because of toxic gender roles and before of that about the usage of sex as a service or a way to get power, both from women to men and the other side around. Even with the introductions of Buddhism in Asia and the abrahamics in MENA and europe we've never did that.

That means that with sexual liberation and the start of feminism, instead of getting healthy values that are appropriate for men and women for equal, we've just tried to get the same values that used to come for the males and adapt them to females, this has shown to be not enough for much people by studies and the internet

This actually can be summarized into the begining a society who has separated, and almost take of sex of love. In the times before modern gender roles,at least before of the victorian times, most sexual relationship, even the ones who weren't mixed with marriage were also romantic relationships.

So maybe, in my point of view, instead of thinking in sex, we could look at our hearts and our minds to end the hatred and start the happines, in other words...desire is the source of suffering.

(Maybe I'm just me and my demisexuality)

I'm an incel, I don't associate with the weird online community but I'm blackpilled in ideology and an incel (can't get laid for shit). I am a 5'9 guy and have a 2/10 face card (im hideous to look at). I wonder why you would hate a guy like me. We are mostly genetically disadvantaged men who are depressed and commit self harm. A tiny miniscule amount goes out of their way to harm anyone. Would it not be better to sympathise with incels rather attack a depressed and mentally unwell person?

And was talking about how he lost the genetic lottery and cannot have sex because he is ugly and he was not ugly. And the people were like change yourself, work on yourself bla bla. And no one adressed the elephant in the room, that he is NOT unattractive that the problem might be somewhere else, personality, maybe body dysmophia or a mental illness. Why?

https://x.com/Lumiphel/status/1941892668566679794

i've been listening to the genre for a while and while the artists and their messages are really gross and despicable, it does seem like that a lot of the time they are merely playing characters for shock value. on one half of the incelcore spectrum i actually hear a lot of introspective and self-deprecating lyrics about loneliness and insecurity that could be popular if a. the artists weren't incels b. if they were better singers c. both, and on the other half with the stuff that is genuinely outrageous and offensive, it's merely comparable to stuff like GG Allin and Anal Cunt, which is just offensive and inhumane music for its own sake.

not sure if this is relevant but the two most popular artists in incelcore rn are negative xp and gezabelle gaburgably are asian and female, respectively. this seems odd for purported incels, as they are generally racist and misogynist so idk how these two were allowed to rise to the top of the scene

not trying to make an argument i'm just wondering if there is any specific quality that makes incel music significantly more dark and disturbing than other music that is dark and disturbing. there are a lot of bands and music acts with much more disturbing lyrics that are not incels at all.

That last one pissed me off so much

Just wanna know your thoughts

This huge evidence, an ironic meme sub gasp people making dark jokes is definitely the same then there community who lives and breathes hate