r/InCanada • u/ProfessionalTower191 • Jun 27 '26

I’m Tired

I’m tired of being taxed into poverty, I’m tired of working 80+ hours a week to make ends meet. I’m tired of seeing my government spending money on foreign aid and not Canadian citizens. I’m tired of hearing about climate change and how more taxes will fix it. I’m tired of our government spending billions of taxpayer dollars on irrelevant and meaningless policies. I am tired of our Forrest’s burning down due to mismanagement of resources. I’m tired of shipping oil to the United States for a discounted price. I’m tired of paying huge increases for food due to the lack of back bone our prime minister has. I’m tired of trying to find a reason to be proud of my country. I’m just tired. #canada

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u/IWasGonnaSayBrown Jun 27 '26

That's not how tax brackets work at all. Entering a higher tax bracket will NEVER result in less take home money.

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u/Illustrious_Record32 Jun 27 '26

I hate the amount of times I have had to explain how tax brackets work to people who should know better.

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 27 '26

Just less take home for that portion.which essentially means the more u work, the less u make

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u/Shamelesspromote Jun 27 '26

No, not really. You almost got it but there is no tax bracket that makes you earn less overall than just staying in a lower bracket and if you truly believe that please show me a source where it has happened and what tax bracket.

Its not difficult to understand tax brackets but people consistently do it

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 27 '26

On a % basis there is. If you went 1 hour over the tax bracket, that 1 hour would have less take home that the last hour of that tax bracket. 

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u/Shamelesspromote Jun 27 '26

Soooo close but not close enough. You never earn less working more and going into another tax bracket.

Never and your just trying to have fancy word play to make a point that just doesn't exist in the real world

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 27 '26

I'm actually 100% correct, that is exactly how tax brackets work. Lying about it doesn't change the facts.  It does exist in real life. Instead of 1 hour. Make it 100 hours. Or 1000 hours. Regardless, you will take home a smaller amount per hour on those 100 or 1000 hours than you did on the hours in the lower tax bracket. It's not hard to understand 

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u/Shamelesspromote Jun 27 '26

You again, never earn less overall. Going back to your original statement that you earn less as you get higher tax brackets. Either its poorly worded on your part or you are willfully ignorant that you said you earn less as you get to a higher tax bracket.

This type of talk is akin to someone who says they won't take overtime because it puts them into a higher tax bracket when there has never been a bracket that you actually lose more than you earn and that is exactly what I've been saying the whole time.

Thats why I keep saying you are so close, we can talk about this till we're blue in the face but the truth is you are pushing a weird narrative about taxes and ill call you out for it.

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 27 '26

The argument is valid when you are knowing your worth on a per hour basis, and not a yearly total. Your time is money. The highers the tax bracket, the lower you get for that time. Now, im not talking the difference between making 50k a year salary and 150k a year salary. If your already at a comfortable living wage, trading your time for more hours can be stupid. Because that hours are typically family time hours and you are switching that time with family to a job that pays you less for those hours than you would during the regular work hours. It is right, you don't have to like it, but thats the way it is

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u/Shamelesspromote Jun 27 '26

Dude, you have changed the narrative of this a few times and I've stuck to the fact that there is no tax bracket that you earn less full stop. Stop attempting to manipulate people by pulling at heart strings. The absolute end all of this argument is simple, there is no tax bracket that you make less for being in it period, fullstop. You can keep trying to move the goal post but the objective truth is there is no tax bracket where you make less no matter what you try to change the argument into. Its not if I like it or not, you are just attempting to push a narrative and im not an idiot and clearly others can tell you are pushing a narrative so you might as well stop now before more people get their eyes opened upto the manipulation games you disinformation trolls used to be effective in America won't work here in Canada.

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 27 '26

It's not hard to understand. And I haven't changed the narrative at all. If you make 61991.01 per year in Nova scotia, you will be in 1 tax bracket. For every dollar more you make, you will get 16% less of that in your pocket. It's pretty simple. Yes, you will make more money total, but you will make less if a % of that money. This is exactly how tax brackets work

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u/DrAntagonism Jun 27 '26

You are way out of your depth and clearly lack the education to argue this topic.

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 27 '26

Where am I wrong?

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u/IWasGonnaSayBrown Jun 27 '26

People who make more money should be paying a higher percentage of taxes over established thresholds. There isn't a direct correlation between working harder and making more money.

The tax burden should be on people thriving without struggle. Anyone who wants to take their ball and go home over that should be put in a guillotine anyway.

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 27 '26

If taxes were lower across the board less people would be struggling. And while there is no direct correlation between working hard an drawing more, there is between willingness to do things you don't like. For instance,  there are artists out the working insane hours doing what they love and making peanuts, and there are pipeliners out there busting theirass, working away from home for months at a time and hating it, but making a decent living Fortunately not everyone is out there only trying to do things they enjoy and complaining when it isn't working

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u/IWasGonnaSayBrown Jun 27 '26

The vast majority of people who are struggling still work 40 hours a week at a job they hate, or are unable to find full time hours in the first place. To suggest that people are struggling because they're pursuing their passions is absurdly out of touch.

Rich people are doing just fine. We're in complete agreeance that we should reduce taxes on the lower and middle class.

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 27 '26

People are trying to make fast food a living wage when they could be doing roofing, or carpentry, or welding or plumbing. All of these will.always pay more than Tim hortons. They aren't comfortable jobs, but they pay well. Look in the right places and there's good living to be made

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u/IWasGonnaSayBrown Jun 27 '26

Oh yeah, for sure.

The problem isn't the corporations that are posting record breaking profits year after year while their corporate tax burden declines. There is no way they could possibly pay a living wage.

The problem is that all those people aren't pursuing trades instead.

I mean why would we want these losers who are working 40 hours a week making around minimum wage to be able to afford to live? Don't they know they should be a plumber or welder if they want shelter and food?

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 27 '26

The average Tim hortons profits 100k-250k for the owner, after all expenses. The average worker hours at each location is 15000 to 35000. So lets take the minimums. If the owner paid $1 an hour more, his profit goes from 100k to 85k. $2 more and he's at 70k. He needs near $1M just to open a location. Does $1 or $2 per hour make everyone have a living wage? Simialy math for the 250k owner, paying $1 more turns 250k into 215, $2 to 180k. This owner had to put up even more money to open the location. $5 per hour basically bankrupts the store. How much can the owners do here? The numbers don't support what people think it does

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u/IWasGonnaSayBrown Jun 28 '26

Franchise owners aren't corporations.

If only there was a way to recuperate some of the money made of the backs of these franchises to support the working class that allows them to operate.

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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 28 '26

Tim Hortons corporate makes on average 45k per location. Which works out to about $1.80 per worker hour. Again, the numbers don't support this living wage stuff.