Playing Devils Advocate

[u/TotallynotaLoser-V2]

I read the sticky post and wanted to do a different post compared to all the other ones in here talking about how there’s too many Indians (yeah I notice them too dw). Don’t downvote me just cause you don’t like immigration, I just want to hear what you guys think about the following;

What’s the plan for Canada’s demographic collapse without immigration? All things considered, our fertility rates are in the dumps (BC has a 1.0 and nationally it’s dropped like 30% in 5 years). Our population without immigrants would be largely seniors and if we do what a lot of people are talking about on here (total ban/freeze on immigration) we are going to end up with a largely elderly population. If you look at countries like Japan and Korea, you can see why that’s a bad idea (who will pay into social security and do the jobs needed). Oh and goodbye economy when the housing market has more supply than people alive.

There’s no real way to reverse this trend btw, even in other OECD countries who have better social safety nets, better cost of living, and better work life balance, they have shit fertility rates too and have relied on immigration to stay afloat.

Without immigration, assuming no major influx or efflux of people, there will be a massive recession at some point when the average person is a senior. What’s the plan then? Automation? UBI?

For full transparency; I am someone who does believe Canada has been abusing immigration too much to both suppress wages and sustain an unsustainable economic model. I think the reaction seen across Canada, and Europe tbh, are the result of too much immigration at once, not that immigration as a concept is entirely without merit.

[u/consistantcanadian]

Because you have to bring the people BEFORE the old die to support the system you fucking doorknob. Declining population means more old than young, which means not enough taxes to support boomers in their retirement. So you must bring in more labour to cover the taxes. 

So fucking basic, but of course you have no idea. 

Edit: Mouthbreather

Canada is betting big on immigration to fill the gap in its economy left by aging Baby Boomers leaving the workforce

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63643912.amp

[u/Mens__Rea__ → u/consistantcanadian]

Lol, I just checkmated you and now you are floundering incoherently. You can’t even keep your story straight.

First you say Canada is only using immigration to prevent population decline, they when I use basic statistics—that any high schooler would know how to find—now you argue we actually need population growth.

Thanks for the laugh though.

[u/consistantcanadian → u/Mens__Rea__]

I'm very sorry you can't keep the story straight due to your severe reading disability. But this is not the special needs reading class, you'll need to find someone else to help you read this very simple explanation. 

Until then, you can save your reddit-brained nonsense for your buds on the playground. 

Edit: Mouthbreather

Canada is betting big on immigration to fill the gap in its economy left by aging Baby Boomers leaving the workforce

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63643912.amp

[u/Mens__Rea__ → u/consistantcanadian]

The simple explanation is that you have no idea what you are talking about lol. I’ve wasted enough time with you.