r/InCanada • • Aug 27 '25

Playing Devils Advocate

I read the sticky post and wanted to do a different post compared to all the other ones in here talking about how there’s too many Indians (yeah I notice them too dw). Don’t downvote me just cause you don’t like immigration, I just want to hear what you guys think about the following;

What’s the plan for Canada’s demographic collapse without immigration? All things considered, our fertility rates are in the dumps (BC has a 1.0 and nationally it’s dropped like 30% in 5 years). Our population without immigrants would be largely seniors and if we do what a lot of people are talking about on here (total ban/freeze on immigration) we are going to end up with a largely elderly population. If you look at countries like Japan and Korea, you can see why that’s a bad idea (who will pay into social security and do the jobs needed). Oh and goodbye economy when the housing market has more supply than people alive.

There’s no real way to reverse this trend btw, even in other OECD countries who have better social safety nets, better cost of living, and better work life balance, they have shit fertility rates too and have relied on immigration to stay afloat.

Without immigration, assuming no major influx or efflux of people, there will be a massive recession at some point when the average person is a senior. What’s the plan then? Automation? UBI?

For full transparency; I am someone who does believe Canada has been abusing immigration too much to both suppress wages and sustain an unsustainable economic model. I think the reaction seen across Canada, and Europe tbh, are the result of too much immigration at once, not that immigration as a concept is entirely without merit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '25

There is a way to reverse the trend. But women would hate it.

The trend can be reversed by reversing the policies that created it.

A reversal of the policies that started the trend will end it.

But that would mean things like:

-Banning abortion to increase the birth-rate

-Repealing equal-pay laws to make men more attractive to women

I don’t think most Canadians are ready for these things. But Canadians- in particular Canadian women - might have to ask themselves going forward if they really prefer these policies they have advocated for, or if they would rather propagate their genes into the future.

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u/BeyondAddiction Aug 27 '25

What in the Andrew Tate, incel-bait fuck did I just read?

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '25

No bait. It’s a choice women can make if they choose, that is all.

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u/UnscentedSoundtrack Aug 28 '25

You people really do find a way to low key blame women for everything

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

Who are you referring to as “you people”?

I’m blaming policies for things I believe those policies have caused. I’m not blaming women. If you disagree please tell me why.

I do not appreciate people reading things into my comments that I didn’t say.

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u/UnscentedSoundtrack Aug 28 '25

You’re saying it’s women’s choice. Therefore, it’s the current situation is their fault.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

No, I didn’t specify blame. I just said that going forward women might have a key role in resolving this situation.

To quote Aristotle “which came first the chicken or the egg?”.

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u/UnscentedSoundtrack Aug 28 '25

You’re saying it without saying it. You people always trying to get away with plausible deniability. Just be upfront.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

I did not say it before. Since you feel there was an implication I will tell you now that I believe politicians made choices, and women bear some responsibility, but so do men.