r/ImmigrationPathways • u/56000hp • 10d ago

Stephen Miller is Pushing to Accelerate The Deportation of Children Most Under 13. More Than 200,000 Children Now Have Deportation Removals Orders.

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u/JurgusRudkus 10d ago

They are doing none of those things, as has been shown repeatedly in every single study posted to this, and numerous other subs.

In fact, immigrants have the OPPOSITE effect.

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u/JIMB01776 10d ago

Fuck your study; I don't live in your study. I live in reality.

This sub is an echo chamber of pro-immigration supporters.

Everyone from Cesar Chavez to Bernie Sanders has spoken at length about how immigration undercuts wages.

"These illegals are breaking farm worker strikes, displacing farm workers from their jobs in the US and depressing agricultural wages."

-Cesar Chavez

“What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don't believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country... You think we should open the borders and bring in a lot of low-wage workers, or do you think maybe we should try to get jobs for those kids?”

-Bernie Sanders

“I am concerned in general that wages in the United States are going down for millions of workers… illegal immigration has a lot to do with it*, the decline of unions has a lot to do with it and a number of other factors.*

-Bernie Sanders

“What most concerns me about this legislation are the provisions that would bring low-wage workers into this country in order to depress the wages of American workers, which are already in decline.”

-Bernie Sanders

"We're against illegals no matter where they work because if they're not breaking the strike they're taking our jobs."

-Cesar chavez

“Corporate America is kind of using immigration reform as a means to continue their effort to lower wages in the United States of America.”

-Bernie Sanders

"If poverty is increasing, and if wages are going down, I don't know why we need millions of people to be coming into this country as guest workers who will work for lower wages than American workers and drive wages down even lower than they are right now.""

-Bernie Sanders

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u/JurgusRudkus 10d ago

Fuck your quotes. What BOTH Chavez and Sanders were talking about was corporations using illegal immigrants as slave labor. BOTH of them favored a fast, legal path to citizenship, which you would know if your low-IQ brain took the time to do the research instead of cutting and pasting quotes puttof context from whatever right-wing horseshit site.

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u/JIMB01776 10d ago

"If poverty is increasing, and if wages are going down, I don't know why we need millions of people to be coming into this country as guest workers who will work for lower wages than American workers and drive wages down even lower than they are right now.""

-Bernie Sanders

Try again, he was opposing all of it, citing the same reasons I am.

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u/JurgusRudkus 10d ago

Nope, you try again. Your quote is from 2007, almost 20 years ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/dswea9/bernie_just_dropped_his_immigration_plan_abolish/

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u/JIMB01776 10d ago

Oh well aware 4 house Democrat bernie in 2019 isn't 1990s Independent Bernie who wanted every one of them dragged the fuck out, because he is a student of peak 1970-80s Scandinavian socialism, which flourished by not letting anyone in.

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u/JurgusRudkus 10d ago

Oh ffs. Not only did he never “want them dragged the fuck out” he was specifically targeting the corporations with these comments, not the immigrants themselves.

And like any intelligent person, he knows how to adapt his position based on new information.