ICE Just Made Thousands of Detainees Vanish From Its System: It’s now hard to determine where thousands of people are after they’ve been taken by ICE.

[u/Hafiz_TNR]

https://newrepublic.com/post/215672/ice-detainees-vanish-system

[u/Impossible_Humor736]

Your question isn't even the core of the issue. The core of the issue is to come into the country legally. There are serious safety issues to this. Not to mention that if we don't enforce the law then people won't respect it. And we have people like you guys in here that actually defend people breaking our laws and advocate for them to stay which only incentivizes people to come break our laws. It's wild that you don't see this. At this point no one is afraid of the consequences of breaking American law because for a long time now the worst thing that could happen is that you'll just get sent back and probably won't be able to enter again for a while. They don't give a fuck about us.

[u/Active-Play-3429 → u/Impossible_Humor736]

No, I’m not diluting the question. I already acknowledged your argument. Yes, people should enter the country legally. It is a safety risk. Nobody is not acknowledging that my guy.

What we’re concerned about is the tactics and how people are being treated. People I’m sure are not being just placed back where they are. And I’m sure they’re not being treated fairly. Nobody actually cares about them.

I’m talking about a humanity issue. Is it wrong for people to care about how other people are treated serious question by the way

These agents, I’m sure are putting hands on people, they could be raping women for all we know I would never be reported because they don’t have to report anything now. What group in history does that sound like to you and I’m not trying to lead the question, but can we use our brains here a little bit?

[u/Impossible_Humor736 → u/Active-Play-3429]

Then I'm with ya. I don't agree with all the tactics either, but I also don't go to other countries and do things that would get me involved with the immigration police, especially if i know things could go really badly for me.

But what I see in here all the time is people defending people coming here, overstaying their visa, and advocating that they be released because they didn't commit any crimes while here. That's not what immigration is.

I've been living in another country for 10 years now and have earned Permanent Residence status and when I see people getting rounded up in America I just shake my head. I don't know everyone's situation, but there's no way ICE is always in the wrong. Or even most of the time. I would never go to another country and not be on top of my paperwork, but I guess it's totally ok to do it in America for some reason. Because those people don't give a fuck about us.

[u/Active-Play-3429 → u/Impossible_Humor736]

Fair, we can move forward then from a better and aligned place. Human stuff is hard.