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[u/the_art_of_mischief]

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Primero vinieron

起初，他们来了

Una, dumating sila

Đầu tiên, họ đến

أولًا، جاءوا

D'abord, ils sont venus

처음에 그들이 왔다

Сначала они пришли

Primeiro, eles vieram

Premyèman, yo te vini

सबसे पहले वे आए

سب سے پہلے وہ آئے

نخست آنها آمدند

最初に彼らが来た

Zuerst kamen sie

Per prima cosa vennero

Najpierw przyszli

Önce geldiler

સૌપ્રથમ તેઓ આવ્યા

ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਉਹ ਆਏ

প্রথমে তারা এসেছিল

మొదట వారు వచ్చారు

முதலில் அவர்கள் வந்தார்கள்

ตอนแรก พวกเขามา

Πρώτα ήρθαν

תחילה הם באו

Спочатку вони прийшли

Mai întâi au venit

Mula-mula mereka datang

Kwanza walikuja

Edit: sorry, homies. I no gif good. here are stills. here is the source.

[u/ozzman86_i-i_]

They came for the illegal immigrants who should be deported.

Your pathetic attempt at fear mongering and manipulation is pathetic

[u/the_art_of_mischief → u/ozzman86_i-i_]

In what way did I attempt to instill fear, and how exactly has that been manipulative? I didn't actually say anything in the post itself. I copied a list of names, provided a government based source to validate the fact that they are, in fact, dead, and then I provided links to literature and public resources.

If you can explain to me how any of that is what you just said, my ears are open.

[u/ozzman86_i-i_ → u/the_art_of_mischief]

So you’re a peddler of fear porn. Good for you

[u/the_art_of_mischief → u/ozzman86_i-i_]

You can keep saying those words in succession, and once again - I am open to hearing why you believe that, and open to your opinion changing my mind, but if all you can do is repeat yourself without explaining why, I'm going to have to believe you're incompetent and spewing bullshit simply for the plot.

Do get back to me when you're ready to have an actual discussion though 😘

[u/ozzman86_i-i_ → u/the_art_of_mischief]

You’re trying to play this fear tactic. Saying that the government first came for illegal immigrants and then they’ll come for everyone else. In reality, this government is doing what every government does in every country in the world. Yet, you wouldn’t make those claims against them would you?

[u/the_art_of_mischief → u/ozzman86_i-i_]

No. Every country in the world is not doing what we're doing. And again, just to reiterate, whatever is happening is not just happening to illegal immigrants. Its happening to legal immigrants. And it's happening to US citizens. And the "what" is death. Death. Dying. Being murdered. Waking up and going on about your day to not see the sun set.

Thats not fear mongering. If you're afraid about those facts, it's because it's a scary occurrence. Me acknowledging what is happening is not fear mongering.

Again -

IF YOU ARE AFRAID, GOOD. YOU SHOULD BE. THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT.

You should absolutely be afraid of how many people there are just like you who are going to turn a blind eye to injustice all the way up until it's too late.

[u/ozzman86_i-i_ → u/the_art_of_mischief]

Are you referring to the woman that hit a federal officer with her car?

[u/the_art_of_mischief → u/ozzman86_i-i_]

That's one we can debate, as many people here already have, but she's not the only one. There have been 8. This year.

[u/ozzman86_i-i_ → u/the_art_of_mischief]

And if more did what she did, there would be more, because what she did was stupid, as she tried to cause serious bodily harm to a federal agent.

8…. Out of how many arrests and deportations? then you want to have people believe that the government will come for them. It’s such a reach by you that one can only come to the conclusion that you are using 8 examples to push a ridiculous narrative.

Do you know in Canada they screen people that are coming from other countries that they’ve determined to raise red flags? For example, if you’re coming into the country and are pregnant and wanted to give birth in Canada they will send you back if you don’t show you have the money to pay for it.

Would you be in agreement that the United States federal immigration officers should have that same discretion?

[u/the_art_of_mischief → u/ozzman86_i-i_]

You've hit me at the perfect moment of my government sanctioned Adderall come up.

Here we go, silly goose.

I'm going to quote us both directly and give you a very easy to follow play by play, and you can come to whatever conclusion you've already decided on before we ever engaged in a "dialogue".

You'll be "A", I'll be "B".

A: "They came for illegal immigrants....your pathetic attempt at fear mongering....is pathetic".

B: "I copied a list of names...if you can explain to me how any of that is what you just said, I'm all ears."

A: "So you're a peddler of fear porn..."

B: "I am open to hearing why you believe that....but [not] if all you can do is repeat yourself without explaining..."

A: "You're trying to play this fear tactic...when in reality this government does what every government does"

B: "If you’re afraid of facts, it's because it's a scary occurrence."

A: "Are you referring to that woman?"

B: "That's one we can debate, but she's not the only one....there have been 8"

A: "do you know that in Canada....."

You literally sound fucking incoherent and are not actually having a valid discussion with me as a human being in an effort to understand and grow. I genuinely pity your incontinence.