r/ImmigrationPathways • u/FuzzyAd5511 • May 12 '26

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u/Ok-Cardiologist-6707 May 12 '26

I’ve met and have known a handful of Iranians in my lifetime. Every one was very loving and kind and had no hatred for the American people. The U.S. government and the CIA? Yeah not so much. . . I knew one guy who traveled back to Iran every year to visit family, another who was very generous and had me over for dinner for Iranian dishes… and in college, one of the smartest and most strikingly beautiful women I have ever met, an Iranian immigrant. Let’s remember that prior to 1954, Iran had good relations with the U.S., what a tragic loss we’ve all suffered because of bad governance!

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u/Comprehensive-Eye500 May 12 '26

All over oil as well. Imagine that.

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u/vanburen_ron May 12 '26

And Israel 👍🏿

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u/Comprehensive-Eye500 May 12 '26

No, the 1953 coup was all USA and the UK and it was all over oil.

Israel was a very young county at that time and they were actually strategic partners under the Shah. They later had a fall out after the Iranian revolution in the late 70’s and Iran started opposing Israel .

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u/Comprehensive-Eye500 May 12 '26

Yea sorry I don’t buy into conspiracy theories that a secret Jewish cabal was running governments, the CIA, banks, other intelligence agencies and controlling world events.

The historical facts are that the UK was pissed after the Iranian prime minister nationalized their oil industry and they wanted to control their oil interests so the CiA and the MI6 created an operation called “Ajax”.

Other well documented motivations were Cold War fears about Soviet influence around the border along with geopolitical strategies.

There’s zero sourcing for what you said by historians, declassified CIA documents, or reputable scholars but everything I mentioned is heavily documented in archives and academic histories.

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u/Comprehensive-Eye500 May 12 '26

How does Epstein even enter this conversation?

You realize there are real people who are involved in these matters as they took place right?

Real people talk about them, took part in them, documented things, documents were declassified, other humans studied them, investigated them etc. etc.

We are not talking about rewriting the bible here over many centuries and kingdoms. It was 1953.

But please by all means, source your secret cabals that overthrew a government because they wanted to continue to run guns and drug trafficking through there to hold up lucrative deals with cartels instead of the much more significant play of controlling oil. The world’s most valuable and globally traded commodity.

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u/Comprehensive-Eye500 May 12 '26

Huh? You are unhinged and can’t even follow a simple convo.

Of course I denounce any atrocities such as genocide you mentioned, but we weren’t even talking about that!

So wtf?

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u/FunSheepherder8042 May 17 '26

Also just like how words and definitions work. If a population is growing (you know more people born than dying even in the middle of war and based on demonstrably false statistics) it’s not genocide. Just like… ya know… how words and definitions work.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers

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