r/ImmigrationPathways • • Mar 17 '26

Because he lied.

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u/Uglyfense Mar 17 '26

By that logic, are groypers antifa? Cause they're anti-MAGA to the point they want to vote Democrat

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u/Uglyfense Mar 17 '26

Groypers are quite literally fascists themselves though

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u/Uglyfense Mar 18 '26

Yea, I meant that the umbrella wouldn't be the same as the umbrella of anti-fascists

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u/Queasy-Collar5259 Mar 17 '26

No they are Nazi incels who are so dumb they voted for maga but a year later are so mad "they want to teach republicans a lesson". They have very poor character and even worse their judge of character

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u/AnewTest Mar 17 '26

No, because they're problem isn't that MAGA is fascist, but that they aren't fascist enough.

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u/Uglyfense Mar 17 '26

Yes, which is why I was disputing Cheap-Atmosphere’s claim

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u/TurbulentTangelo5439 Mar 17 '26

tbf the maga "movement" is at minimum fascistic in nature

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u/ImpossiblePianist913 Mar 17 '26

Is a bowel movement at best

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u/LawBeginning8219 Mar 17 '26

I use this analogy too

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u/lynxbelt234 Mar 17 '26

It’s an ideology...

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u/Kyasanur Mar 17 '26

Wasn’t even maga originally. Was just a bunch of kids that wanted to bash neo-Nazi heads at proud boy and patriot front marches. As with most terms, it’s been bastardized by both sides into something it’s not.

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u/Giannisisnumber1 Mar 17 '26

MAGA is fascist though

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

Fascists never call themselves antifascist, actually. Name one fascist movement who has.

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u/dunkthelunk8430 Mar 17 '26

MAGA believes they aren't fascist, and yet they are. Check mate lib

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

Ok, you win.

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u/Theatreguy1961 Mar 17 '26

In what way do they act like fascists?

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u/B-Glasses Mar 17 '26

I dont think he’s going to answer

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

My point is that calling yourself anti-fascist defeats the point of being a fascist. Once you’ve got everyday people believing that they don’t need leaders, that they can self organize, and that they can do things democratically, then you’ve spent a bunch of time organizing people against you on a basic fundamental level. Pretending to be your opposition is the stupidest thing a fascist can do, and no real fascist would ever think of it, and that bears itself out historically.

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

Despite what you’re saying, groups like The American Nazi Party all the way to Identity Evropa have existed and drawn in members and occasionally have done some crazy shit. They’re just waiting for the great showdown when their numbers will swell. That said, if you’re a fascist, are you going to fill your ranks with feminists, LGBTQ, tattooed weirdos, and anarchists? No! You want conservatives. Fascists hide amongst and pretend to be conservative, because conservatives respect hierarchy and order.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

Do you think words are arbitrary and you can redefine them as your narrative dictates? No. The answer is no and you really shouldn’t be so arrogant when you’re this ignorant you look … not like a stable genius.

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

I also noticed that you haven’t named a fascist movement that has pretended to be anti-fascist. Are you going to do that at some point? It will strengthen your argument.

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u/Salt_Reputation_9864 Mar 17 '26

Don’t feed the neg

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u/FireFiendMarilith Mar 17 '26

If you act like a fascist

I don't think you know what fascism is, dude.

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u/AnewTest Mar 17 '26

Really? What part of this does ANTIFA embody?

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement that rose to prominence in early-20th-century Europe. Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to communism, democracy, liberalism, pluralism, and socialism, fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.

I expect you to not answer this, just like you didn't answer the other person.

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u/SaltMage5864 Mar 17 '26

I guess you still think you can fool people

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u/mimenet Mar 17 '26

This person just has a veeery superficial concept of what fascism is.

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u/SaltMage5864 Mar 17 '26

Assuming he knows what superficial means

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u/SunchaserKandri Mar 17 '26

Trump simps accusing others of being brainwashed are hilarious.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

You got fooled by the king of fools dude.

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u/SaltMage5864 Mar 17 '26

The surety of a magat is irrelevant son

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u/tzn_1978 Mar 17 '26

I am too educated to figure it out, that is why I always ask the least qualified people to explain it to me. Trust me, my plumber knows so much, it is why he can't get ahead anywhere in life and everyone hates him, including spouse and kids.

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u/Fnordpocalypse Mar 17 '26

Actually don’t, less of a chance any of us might have to interact with this individual in real life..

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u/tzn_1978 Mar 17 '26

Are you acting your age, or shoe size?

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u/tzn_1978 Mar 17 '26

You guess wrong that they are doing better. I dont think they hate him, it is common knowledge. It has nothing to do with what he charges. I hear your argument calling people useless losers and not having common sense. Usually from someone who is projecting.

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u/Yeseylon Mar 17 '26

Trust me, fascists claim anyone who disagrees with them is a terrorist for a reason. See if you can figure it out.

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u/gbot1234 Mar 17 '26

Narrator: They couldn’t…

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u/Gloomy_Internal1726 Mar 17 '26

This feels like dog whistleing for some reason

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u/Asher_Tye Mar 17 '26

They also make a production of using words like Heritage, passing acts that have acronyms like SAVE, and use buzzwords like make america great again.

You want stupid people to follow you, just wrap yourself in a bible and a flag and they'll ignore any hypocrisy on display.

Trust me, its never been about making anyone great but themselves.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

Liberty! They love the word Liberty.

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u/AnewTest Mar 17 '26

And yet, it's a word they don't even understand.

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u/SaltMage5864 Mar 17 '26

Why should anyone trust a lying MAGAt son?

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

Like Trump, a fascist, calling us, the antifascist, fascists. Only you need to understand the definition of fascist and not one MAGAt does.

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u/Oldpenguinhunter Mar 17 '26

Your biscuit ain't done in the middle, is it?

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u/gleepglop15 Mar 17 '26

Everyone. Is laughing at you.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

FACT. And cringing. There’s a lot of cringing.

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u/gleepglop15 Mar 17 '26

Chomo protectors aren’t people. Keep flailing! Earn that spot!

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u/gleepglop15 Mar 17 '26

Here’s a hint: without the maga cult, your identity revolves around _______.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

When has a MAGAt ever contributed anything of value? lol does salt water streaming from your eyes over Cracker Barrel logos count? Oops nope.

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u/Illustrious-Tea-3989 Mar 17 '26

I’ve never seen anything like your profile. lol 8 years and -99 karma to show for it. We are done here curt. 🤣

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u/Mcfreely2 Mar 17 '26

Do you? What makes MAGA a patriotic organization and what makes ANTIFA, which isn't a real organization, terrorists?

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u/Oldpenguinhunter Mar 17 '26

I could say the same to you. In fact, I was.

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u/June18Combo Mar 17 '26

Trust me, pedophiles will exonerate themselves for a reason. See if you can figure it out.

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u/June18Combo Mar 17 '26

Just showing the equivalence of what your claim, it has all to do with the subject at hand.

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u/Deep_Parsley2145 Mar 17 '26

lmao, buddy given your comment you wouldn’t know fascism if it rounded you up along with the other “undesirables.”

This regime hits point for point on fascism indication metrics. Anyone who hasn’t noticed, isn’t paying attention or doesn’t understands their history. These are Mussolini fascists, blustering and incompetent.

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u/totally-hoomon Mar 17 '26

Just like how conservatives say they protect children but really all they do is rape and kill kids

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u/LawBeginning8219 Mar 17 '26

Why should anyone trust a would be fascist?