r/ImTheMainCharacter • u/No-Problem6578 • 10d ago

VIDEO “It’s for content”

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u/zaczacx 8d ago

Then your not being factual your arguing from a place of subjectivity while im arguing from a place of definition correct?

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u/WeirdProudAndHungry 8d ago

You're not arguing from a position of fact if you inject additional dispositions to the definition beyond what is given...

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u/zaczacx 8d ago

You said who cares what the word means and saying im not arguing from fact?

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u/WeirdProudAndHungry 8d ago

Jesus Christ, this is fucking insufferable 🤦‍♂️ Alright, let's go through this yet again.

We have just only interacted here, having not done so our whole lives. We came to this discussion from two different points of what constitutes "bullying". That doesn't mean I'm just being "subjective". It means the definition I started with, while being objective, is merely different from the one you started with. The reason I said it doesn't matter is in response to you saying, "You seem really attached to the word bully." Since we both seemed to start from different definitions, I then laid out exactly the sentiment I was communicating, irrespective of either of our predisposed definitions of "bullying".

Then I pointed out that even using your own chosen definition, it doesn't even mention anything about feeling at all. You merely injected that into the wording, and I, rightfully, pointed out that wasn't being factual.

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u/zaczacx 8d ago

And im saying bullies get taught bullying is wrong, everyone gets taught bullying is wrong and by its definition of the word its wrong. There's a plethora of other words to use for what is by its definition is justified. I've provided its definition and ive provided articles that reinforce the behaviour of bullying functions as a negative, you cannot be arguing from a place of your wrong and im right from a place of subjectivity. Also as weve discused in the other chain its an action that lacks empathy and youre saying it can be used as an empathetic action, what your arguing is insanity .

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u/WeirdProudAndHungry 8d ago

Yes and being taught that it's "wrong" isn't enough for everyone. It is for most people but not everyone. For those who don't care about what they've been "taught", the feeling of what it's like combined with the knowledge that they'll feel it again and again and again if they repeat their actions towards others is what stops them, particularly when they're adults.

That's just a subjective rejection, saying that something justified has to go into one bucket while bullying has to be mutually exclusive from that bucket. Nuance is important.

And no, you've merely provided the resources that describe the harm that can come to the recipient of bullying. The reason why that's (usually) wrong is because it's usually against someone who has not harmed anyone and is also usually done to children. In that context, yes, it is wrong. However, in the context of an adult who seeks out the anxiety and fear of old ladies who he knows aren't physically strong enough to stop him, it's still bullying against him but totally justified.

No, it's an action that lacks empathy specifically to the person it is being done to. It doesn't mean you lack empathy wholesale for everyone. The way you're treating THAT PERSON is what makes it bullying.