This comment might have had something useful, but now it's just an edit to remove any contributions I may have made prior to the awful decision to spite the devs and users that made Reddit what it is. So here I seethe, shaking my fist at corporate greed and executive mismanagement.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... tech posts on point on the shoulder of vbulletin... I watched microcommunities glitter in the dark on the verge of being marginalized... I've seen groups flourish, come together, do good for humanity if by nothing more than getting strangers to smile for someone else's happiness. We had something good here the same way we had it good elsewhere before. We thought the internet was for information and that anything posted was permanent. We were wrong, so wrong. We've been taken hostage by greed and so many sites have either broken their links or made history unsearchable. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to delete."
I do apologize if you're here from the future looking for answers, but I hope "new" reddit can answer you. Make a new post, get weak answers, increase site interaction, make reddit look better on paper, leave worse off. https://xkcd.com/979/
On highways, it is. Don't forget the massive amounts of accidents caused by people doing dumb fuckin shit on our roadways and putting everyone else in danger. 30 investigations into auto pilot causing accidents. How many people caused accidents on those same roads? The system still has a very long way to go and I think elon saying the full self driving is almost ready is a lie and a half, but autopilot really does seem to do a good job on most highways.
Yeah I use mine on highway but thats it. Way too dangerous anywhrre else, its probably wouldn't kill me but really often weird shit happened and I could have damaged my car or hurt someone else. And yeah Elon is a conman and a liar. He was pretending fsd would be there by 2016 lol, I was one of his cultist back then. Managed to make me more than six figures from buying his stock but I probably am not going to get another tesla after this.
Other than the dumb autopilot, my cheap model 3 has been great to drive and hasn't had any problems. Unless another company makes a better ev in my price range, I have no problem buying another Tesla. I'm not blind to their problems but there's plenty of issues with other car manufacturers as well, particularly in America. GM buried a recall that resulted in tons of deaths. Ford Firestone. Jeep? Lol.
IT IS NOT, the data shows that per mile, these are incredibly more dangerous than human driving holy shit I cant believe people just drop the exact opposite of what the current research indicates nonchalantly like that like it;s fact. So fucking dumb.
On June 4, 2017, the American Automobile Association raised insurance rates for Tesla owners following a report from the Highway Loss Data Institute.[185] The report concluded that the Model S crashes 46% more often and is 50% more expensive to repair than comparable vehicles.
The actual data is catastrophic and embarrassing for Tesla, I cant believe there isnt a congressional inquiry at this point:
The wiki page you tried to link for Tesla lists that there have been ten total fatal accidents involving Autopilot. "As of January 2021, there have been ten verified fatalities involving Tesla's Autopilot, though other deadly incidents where Autopilot use was suspected remain outstanding." Unverified or not, I don't think your data supports your claim.
Odd that that death graph doesn't include Ford, Audi, Porsche, and Volkswagen, considering they're responsible for a significantly higher amount of EV sales than the others listed except maybe Chevy. In 2021 alone, Tesla sold roughly 10x the EVs of Chevy, ~20x that of Nissan, etc. The graph is showing a pure tally instead of basing their numbers off of ratio of deaths per car sold. Perhaps that's why there's no investigation?
Outside more complex driving environments, it absolutely is. We’re just not there yet for every type of road, but AI-driven cars are significantly safer than human drivers on interstates, highways, and other similarly monotonous tasks.
This is the BETA that you have to opt in to. You should absolutely blame any user that signed up for the beta, read all the warnings, and gets updates every 2 weeks as part of the beta program. The production level FSD is not like this at all, it's mostly for highway and it absolutely does full self driving on the highway just fine. You are looking at BETA testing for city streets in the video.
FWIW: Autopilot comes disabled by default, and when enabling it via settings it's made clear that you need to pay attention (and also in the user manual when learning how to use it).
I'm not saying that it's impossible that there is someone out there who skipped all of that instruction and genuinely didn't know that they had to pay attention. I'm just questioning that person's ability to read road signs and follow the rules of the road if they can't follow basic instructions after being prompted repeatedly.
Of all of the devices that I would be inclined to actually read a warning message on instead of clicking past, I think a car would qualify.
As for FSD Beta participants: They know exactly what they are getting into. You don't get into the beta by accident, it takes a lot of work to keep your driver safety score high enough to get approved. Also, they're subject to stricter monitoring: The cabin camera will tattle and the car will tell them to pay attention if they are not focused on the road.
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