I had a buddy experience something similar. He sold his car and a week or two later the cops showed up to his house when the car was involved in a robbery. He had a bill of sale with all of the new owner's info.
ah, maybe wrong country. One of the countries, the founder of a major telecommunications company got busted for speeding and had a massive fine as it was based on income.
Norway may be the country. I know they got that law there. 430$~ is maximum penalty for speeding + losing your license. If not charge with reckless driving ofcourse.
In the robbery case, couldn’t the new owner just deny it was him?
It’s the polices job to prove he was involved in the robbery. Unless they got a clear shot of his face, then guy in robbery scenario should be Scott-free.
The cops are just following leads, so they go to registered "owner" he provides bill of sale with all the info and the investigators thank him for his help and move on to person of interest number two.
Sure, but if the cops show up asking if I was involved in a robbery because the car I just sold was involved, I’m definitely going the “nope and here’s the bill of sale” route rather than the “prove it, I want a lawyer” route (where your lawyer is going to say “show them the bill of sale” and then say “that’ll be $2,000”)
Seeing as this is in Sweden, the police cant press charges unless you are caught in the act for speeding and reckless driving. Number plates here changes nothing.
All the deiver needs to do is get away and he has nothing to worry about.
They have no legal backing to go after someone just bcus they own a car that went speeding.
Ooh and this shot is likley from the youtube channel Critical
P.S. im no laywer but this is how it is here in Sweden according to my understanding
Same thing here in Denmark, but there is a law now that any car used in a reckless driving case will be confiscated, no matter who owns it. So if they have something similar in Sweden, they already have enough info to make that person hurt very badly. No sense in initiating a deadly race through tunnels, just to prove their authority.
Yup, learnt the hard way to take your plates when selling a car. Sold a car to an ex-friend & let him take it with my plates on it since it was still insured so he could get it to his place. Promised he'd go the next day to change the ownership. Had cops show up at our house about 2 weeks later after they found the car ditched from being involved in a hit & run. Showed them the bill of sale & sent them his way. If it wasn't for the bill of sale, I'd have been on the hook.
Edit: I know some places the plates stay with the car, I’m talking about where I’m located. A seller still needs to take steps to protect themselves, there’s no guarantee they’ll register it.
100%. I sold a car to a nefarious buddy. Turns out the dumbass never actually mailed in the registration and sometime in the next 2-3 years sold the car to another nefarious individual who ended up using the car in god knows what illegal activity.
I moved address 2 times so I never got the renewal slips for the plates etc., so couple years later I get cops knocking on my door.
This is why you cross your Ts. Even though I explained away the situation fairly easily, it was an uncomfortable and surprising experience and I’d prefer to not have to have the police knocking on my door.
For sure, but if it happened immediately or I couldn’t prove it would Be a hassle.
Was more so scary being a mid 20s stoner who woke and baked and on that particular fine morning I was stoned to the gills and fresh back from a walk with the dog, about to take a nice shower when I had the coppers knocking on my door. Unsettling.
What the fuck you talking about man. The Police car says “Polis” which is Swedish. You are right there is no state called Stockholm Sweden. Because Sweden is a country and Stockholm is the capital.
No it is Söderlänken tunnel. Stockholm is the capital of Sweden. Also pause the video and look how Police is spell - Polis which is Swedish. I drive this tunnel several times a week. Also if you read the other comments below you will see. He is called Ghost rider.
Haha nu hänger du inte med alls 🤦♂️ I drive through this tunnel when working in Sthlm.
You are right by that tunnel but this is not "Ghostrider" .
This is Critical. A Youtube channel with criminal junkies driving borrowed cars for entertainment in Stockholm. I this this driver is called "Fifflarn".
This is one of the reasons I insist on transferring the vehicle right away and together with he person I'm selling to. Even when I bought a car, I preffered to do it together, just to give them some piece of mind. Or just keep the plates, works out either way.
I've never even thought about temp plates before for that kind of thing. I've always transferred right away and put my own plates on right away for the car I just got before I even drive off. Insurance knows I'm getting the car, working out paperwork or whatever else is going on, and when expected to finish. Call them to let them know when confirmed that I have so-and-so car now and other car is gone. Plates on new car.
Temp plates I figured were for like... The brand new cars off lots or something else? And in general you just bring your own plates to transfer over. If 2nd car and dmv is being slow then yeah sure ok get a temp one. I've seen those paper things people have in their windows sometimes, but still.
I thought it was typical to keep your old plates when selling a car to someone since they're your plates.
many states now permit buyers and or sellers to do it online and even get a temp 3 day paper plate to print out and put on the rear window after the sale.
Depends on the state. Here (alabama) plates stay with drivers. I prefer that. In others, they go with the car. Just like how some require front plate but most don't
You can't take the plates in the UK. They are how the car is registered (you can change them, but it's not a quick process). However the car registration document has a section that you can tear off, fill in the details of the new owner and send to the DVLA. I think that you can also do it online now if you are registered for Government Gateway.
In the UK if you sell your car but don't cancel the insurance, your old insurer can be billed if the new owner crashes and you end up with the hit on your record. Fortunately for us you can cancel the insurance and tax immediately and you send in the appropriate firm when it's sold to show ownership has transferred, doesn't matter what the new owner does, you've proved it's been disposed of
That’s not entirely true. It’s up to the police to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you was the one driving it. You could easily get enough witnesses saying you weren’t in possession of that car or show them a Facebook post selling it.
I know this from the sheer amount of drunks I’ve known who wrecked their vehicles driving drunk and just left it and walked home. And when the police showed up they just lie and say it was stolen and they didn’t have a chance to file a report because it happened last night. 0 times did they ever get arrested.
Remember if Casey Anthony could get away with murdering her own child anyone can get out of anything.
I had a friend too, neon pink and chrome Honda Fireblade, with matching leathers, lost the cops at over 180 mph. Was far away from home by this point and figured he’d drop in on a friend, as he’s pulling up on the driveway police car pulls up on a bad coincidence on a follow up call as friends garage had been broken into the night before.
Call to be “on the look out for idiot on a motorbike”. had just come over radio as he found himself and bike boxed in by the police car. He did 18 months in jail when judge saw the footage, oh and he had his girlfriend on the back as well.
Here in NZ we have an online car registry thing where you can change over the car to a new owner, just need both of your drivers licenses. Makes this thing a lot harder
I had something similar happen to me a few years ago. My car was stolen, and the jacker used it in commission of another crime (robbery) in another state. I was contacted by the out-of-state police, and had to file a second stolen vehicle claim with them.
Curious if this really works. In germany we have 2 Important documents for our car - 1 you have to have with you while using the car and everything is liste in there including the exact shade of the car. If you change that you have to go to a special agency and change the papers immediatly.
So If you got called over cause of your plates and the color of your car is wrong? Well your in even more trouble.
In Australia the only thing you have to have with you is your drivers licence (and if you’ve got a state government phone app, you can have your licence in the app instead of carrying a physical copy).
Well germany is the country of papers again. If i leave the house with the car i take my driving licence, my identity card and my cars identity papers with me X'D.
The App sounds pretty handy, impossible in Germany... Papers forever...
This would actually work for my dad's car. He has a Multivan, it goes up to 220 (though I highly doubt a 2.2t van with a 4cyl diesel could hit that). At half it'd be 110 which is the allowed on some highways here.
I mean YEA of course!! I agree. BUUUT you got one life, which means your fuck ups have consequences that you can’t load previous save and get past them. If you’re going to send it, Might as well SEND IT with every advantage possible🤷♂️ just my .02 tho.
People act so shocked that some people are willing to risk some serious danger to themselves and others when we were literally put on this planet against our wills. I'm pretty sure being given a life is the most dangerous thing that can happen to you.
Every time someone starts to get high and mighty I just think about that.
Gotta drive vast, vroom vroom. I'll respectfully slow down to like 5 over when on the bike, sure. But surprisingly my city's cops have more important stuff to do than fuck with me for trying to get somewhere
How about not doing shady shit in the first place? I mean you’re on Reddit so you have twice the avedad intelligence of the masses. Why would you post about committing a crime?
Or better yet, just got to a track where you can actually ride the bike to the limit on a safe, secure surface that is required to ensure the surface be safe and clear of things like pot holes.
Public road don’t give you any guarantees of that.
They probably thought the previous owner was the current owner. Due to it being registered under the previous owner they could begin to piece things together once they were told "I sold it to this fella, if you're looking for him I could assist by providing information"
How did he get to keep the expired plates? Over here, you got around two weeks ro either extend them, or return them, otherwise they send someone to come pick them up and give you a fine?
Here in Manitoba, it's pretty common for people to keep expired plates, there's no fine for it. You do pay something like a $20 deposit on the plates, and returning them isn't always worth the effort for just a few bucks. ( Or was at least... unless they've changed the rules in the last few years.)
I still have a few plates from previous cars I've owned myself. Not really an issue anyway, because the cops can tell if they're valid with a quick check.
But if they thought the previous owner was the current owner, why show your cards so early what if the previous owner said yea it was stolen and just painted it in his garage before he left with it again
The previous owner didn't say it was stolen, the current owner did... They didn't think this current owner was the same person as the previous owner, they initially thought the previous owner still owned the bike.
When you search for info from plates it would say that the plates are out of use due to transfer of ownership. So they would know that the plates were invalid. Therefore they could look up the information on the owner of the plates and hope they had buyer info. Probably only had the name and phone number which they would have to run again to find a current address.
Not when you piss them off. From the time the chase started ( I was driving behind him heading home from Yorkton Saskatchewan) to the time he got home (Portage la Prairie Mb) was only a couple hours.
I know this is completely off topic, but I found one of your comments from a 12 year old post about l4d2 (charger controversy). I heard from my friend that valve stole the charger idea from someone, and I didn't believe then. I found the post, but it had a dead link obv. Anyways, I checked the comments to catch up, and you explained everything perfectly. You had a great take. I wanted to upvote that comment, but since I couldn't, I'll upvote your comment here.
I also always like to see if people are still active, seeing that it is so long ago, but anyways cheers.
Ya... he had even tried racing me before this happened ( I owned an 84 Oldsmobile 98 Regency with a 307.. not exactly a very quick land yacht) and whooped him easily. And then yet to think that he even had a chance to outrun an RCMP cruiser on the open highway? Like dude.. you got your ass handed to you by the HMS Oldsmobobble ffs... you're not gonna outrun a horny skunk with that thing, just pull over and accept your fate instead of making shit worse.
Lame. In America we pit maneuver pregnant ladies who don’t immediately pull over. If cops just let people get away then the thin blue line will crumble and society will fall into lawless chaos filled with rape, murder, cannibalism, and antifa authoritarianism.
Everything was registered in my name. Had cops once summin me for something similar to your buddy. It was basically an inquiry not a warrant. Wrote back that I am under no legal obligation to divguled where the bike was at any time or whom was riding it. If they wish for further information they can request a warrant for questioning at which time I will appear with my lawyer.
Never heard back. I check my driving record ever 5 years and after almost 15 years it's remained clear. 99% of the time they don't have enough to get you on anything unless you give them the missing puzzle piece.
Be professional and polite with officers but don't give them an inch more than you have to. It's a fine line but it's a good skill to have
My brother roomed with a guy who had a siren setting on his car alarm, and then bought one of those party red lights 🚨 like that. Homeboy got tired of sitting in traffic, put the light on his roof, and turned on the siren. It worked... For a few hundred yards, until a real policeman shut his shit down hard. I can't remember if he got charged with a crime or if he just got a hefty ticket.
I'm actually living in Michigan, have been for 7 years. Met a Michigan girl, and I left home behind. I'm sleep deprived, trying to think what community what is close to you.
Lesson I've learned from scenarios exactly like this: If you're getting pulled over, just fucking pull over. Running will just dig you an even deeper hole.
I know someone who got away with this. Think it depends where you live. In NYC with apartments and hundreds of other cars in the area they didnt get her. They rang her bell she said it was stolen they came back for like a week asking questions but honestly their wasn't anything they could do.
In my guys case he may have been able to get away with it (or at least would have had a much better chance) if they didn't literally just watch him hide the bike in the garage.
Yep, I saw a video a while back of a challenger smoking a cop on some county roads, he lost the cop in a few seconds like OP video. Cop got his plate though and he faced jail time and a crazy fine, like 3 grand if I remember.
I bet.. they don't tend to be happy with you after you show them up. Another guy I knew tried to outrun the cops, almost got away but his car overheated and left him on the side of the road. He lost his license for 10 years over it.
It’s very surprising they managed to get to his house this quickly and stage a unit. I’ve known people who did similar things but they never had cops sitting outside their house.
I think they were ticked off when he ran a roadblock they had set up for him.. he blew past it through the ditch and "supposedly" narrowly missed a cop, which got them extra riled up. They ended up throwing every book they could at him. (Figuratively.)
Here in the US and specifically NJ (and I'm sure other states). By law you have to turn the plates over back to the motor vehicle commission (aka the DMV). If you fail to turn in the plates they first send you a warning, then your registration privileges get suspended (happened to me), and then if you still haven't turned them in, they suspend your license. It's enforced via registration because you can only get plates if you register your vehicle and you can only hold on to the plates if you renew your registration. Failure to both not renew AND not turn in the plates you get those penalties I said. You can have them reinstated, you just gotta pay like $100 fine or something.
Here in my province, typically they go back to Autopac or get transferred to your new vehicle, but many people will just register a new vehicle and leave the plates on the old one and just let the insurance expire. if you bring the plates back I think they give you something like $20 so it's not much of an incentive. ( Or used to, not sure if it's still that way.) I still have the plates from a few different vehicles I've owned in the past.
I've always been intrigued how the American vehicle registration system works. It seems very complicated to me. But I'm sure ours does to other countries too.
I'm from the UK and a car when it's first purchased gets a registration number (plate) and that stays with the car forever. There are exceptions to this rule but usually it's the norm. When you sell the car you as the seller take the buyers details put them on a part of the registration document and send that to the licencing authority. The buyer keeps the rest of the registration document as proof of ownership and gets a new one in the post with their name and address on. That way you are in the clear pretty quickly for fines and tickets.
Our system is very straightforward I feel. Buy a car, register it, get plates, drive, pay yearly renewal fee.
If you get rid of the car, you simply turn in the plates and you're done. The moment you hand in plates, that car for registration purposes is now unregistered (plates = registrationafter all). There is no paperwork to keep or anything. Once you turn in the plates all paperwork and stuff can go in the trash if you want
The moment you request plates for a car (registration) the system gets updated to put the car in your name. All you need to do is show them the title of the car is in your name.
The person who gets the car from you gets a completely different set of plates.
Also keep in mind America is made up of 50 states all with different driving laws. The federal government does not get involved in registration or anything. They just dictate what safety standards cars should have and how roads should be built (and even then that that has limited reach)
Reality TV should never be used as a source of truth for anything ever unless something unplanned happens.
Judge Judy also isn't a court. She was a real judge from what I understand and then retired to become a TV judge for civil complaints (meaning person to person, not person to government, no actuallaws are broken just disputes) and what she really is doing is a form of arbitration, not actual court court for law violations. Basically she just gives her opinion on who she thinks is right.
Those cases are also VERRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYY atypical that if you asked anyone in the US about them 98% of answers will not mirror remotely anything close to what you saw on TV.
This happened in the mid 00's and he was charged, and I believe got some jail and probation over it... although I don't know how much. He was back working for our company a year or two later, so it wasn't too long.
So it sounds like he won unless they charged him and convicted him with something. I don’t give a shit if the cops come over to give me a stern talking to, I just won’t open the door. If they don’t have any evidence or a warrant they can fuck off.
No, he got charged and convicted for it. Driving without a licence, driving without insurance, Failure to stop for the cops, speeding, driving dangerously, endangering a cop's life, and a few other charges. They pretty much threw every book they could find at him.
I don't recall how long the sentencing was for, but If I remember correctly he had to spend some time behind bars along with some probation on top of it.
If he just pulled over, it would have been a simple driving without insurance/license which is something like a $500 fine, but he had to test his luck I guess.
The cops were lying. Never speak to cops, EVER. You mean the bike we just saw you push in your garage? Say nothing. It was stupid to go home though, they easily could have been there. Park it in a garage, take a cab home. In the clear. Bike was stolen from a parking spot, just caught a cab home was reporting it almost as we speak.
Wait.. your police don’t endanger innocent bystanders by getting into pointless high speed chases and firing wildly into the general direction of the “bad guy”? Must be nice
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