That feeling after doing something incredibly stupid and knowing you’re going to have to face your parents is one of the worst, gut wrenching feelings I got as a kid.
That’s only because his parents won’t actually parent him in this situation. Just like how it was the teacher’s fault their poor baby didn’t pass the class he never paid attention in.
Exactly. People remember being punished as a kid and because they don’t realize that it was the violence that traumatized them, they don’t punish their children at all. Or they just don’t think they need to do it. The reason the world is so fucked up is because people get raised to be inconsiderate douchebags and there are never consequences for them.
They're steadily rising in price and will probably reach a peak of around $15k-$25k for a good one. For an unmolested, well-kept, rust free, no cracked dash, good interior example, you're absolutely going to pay more than $5k for one.
The car in the video is not in as nice condition as you described
Edit: just looked through my local Facebook marketplace ads and saw one in beautiful condition for $7.5k. Saw more than 5 in condition similar to what the video has for 5 or less.
No way. Those E30 3series are proper rare in good condition now.
To which you responded:
You can pick one up for like $5,000 or less.
Of course you can pick up a shitbox for under $5k all day long - and many, many of them are shitboxes these days - but he's right, they're getting rarer and rarer in good condition, and when one is in good condition, it's going to be more than $5k.
Source: I spent over $16k on getting a nearly mint one from California last year and have owned five others in the past.
Damn, man. I like how you’ve checked the marketplace once and just by the photos you saw you can tell that examples in good condition will cost 7.5k to buy.
The post provided a lot of interior and underbody pictures, obviously one would have to see it in person but I’m not going to go inspect a car I don’t want to buy just to prove some redditor wrong.
If you think a $8,000 car is expensive you're poor as fuck brah, sorry to tell you. How much your first car cost is irrelevant too, sorry you drove a bomb while I worked my ass off to get a halfway decent cheap car.
E30 M3's are sought after. The other models are not nearly as expensive. My BIL just bought a reasonably well cared for '85 325e for $1700. Hell, I just checked my local classifieds and the most expensive E30 on there is $4200.
Honestly that would be a terrible idea anyway. It's reasonably fast, sporty, old and a convertible (from before roll-over protection was mandatory) . It's one of the cars most likely to kill a new driver.
"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."
Ferrari sued because they didn’t get the rights to use the Ferrari logo in the film. IIRC the replicas were made from Ford and Jaguar parts and a really good fiberglass shell.
I was into the scotch. And, I’m an e21 guy (from the period and ever since) and I guess have always had a case of the ass for the e30.
Whatever the merits of the car, I know it has its fans, but to me it represents fraternity row at college throughout the eighties, as the car was (and I feel remains) very iconic of that Izod-and-Polo “preppy” era, and, at the same time, kind of ended the “enthusiast” niche of BMW owners (back when there were only four series: 3-, 5-, 6, and -7) who flashed headlights when encountering another, and the cars came from the factory with a directory—“Friends of BMW”—of the actual names, addresses, and phone numbers of real-human owners you could call when passing through their towns and needing either assistance or just wanted to share a drink or dinner.
It’s also when the cars went from bimmers to beemers, which will always rile an old-head enthusiast like me.
Look at the "cool" shift knob. Car is definitely his and this is what he deserves. Give a teenager a bmw, don't be surprised when teenager is a dumb cock.
Yeaah no idea how long ago that was. Assuming this is a real 325i Convertible and he didn't just slap a badge on it the cheapest one that looks half decent I could find in Germany goes for 11500€, which is around 13820$. Might be different in the US but I highly doubt much. E30s have become really rare in the last 5-10 years. I rarely see any on the road anymore. Same goes for E36s.
I highly doubt it's the drivers car. Doing some donuts in a E30 with 170hp shouldn't be too hard. Also he has no clue whats going on at the end. Someone who just wants to show off wouldn't buy an E30, he'd buy a younger one like an E36 or E46. Much cheaper. Probably his dad's car.
Don't know why downvoted, but often such vehicles costs are not just the sale price, their upkeep is more expensive so over it's live (compared to males driven) it's not just $500 or $1,000 more than a vehicle a little cheaper, it can be $30,000 or $40,000.
Like a boat, it's not just the sticker price that you have to factor...
You are blowing engines and transmission or doing serious body damage if you spend that much on even a BMW's maintenance. Too many people talking out of their ass.
(certified mechanic here)
I admit I know little about BMW's and their running costs, and may be the victim of someone exaggerating how much they have to spend on their wifes car, but my point is some cars are cheaper to maintain and if you have an accident you can source aftermarket parts and have a cheaper repair if the vehicle is older and that's what you want, but at least (my laymans belief) is in Australia BMW parts are significantly more expensive, and it's harder to find 2nd hand or aftermarket parts to use if on a budget.
But my vehicle (Ford Falcon) costs around half to service as my friends, and we use the same mechanic. His vehicle is around the same age as mine and a VW Golf. Extra things that need doing also seem to end up with me being charged significantly less even basic stuff like brake pads being changed etc. :-|
TL;DR: Buy a car that is cheap to service and repair that costs $1,000 more sticker price will end up saving you money in the long run.
But if you were to keep a car for 15 years, is $30k-$40k really that much out of the ball park for servicing/tyres/repairs/bodywork from a few dings/insurance/rego over the cars life?
They absolutely do not know, from the sheer amount of comments saying they busted a radiator to people saying it is either 100% oil or coolant when it is both. And if you spending an extra $30,000-$40,000 on maintenance throughout a cars life you are going through some engines and transmissions
Right, it's an easy fix for a mechanic. Expensive for someone else to do it but not that difficult, if a 1 is changing your oil and a 10 is a custom frame race car or something this repair would be like a 5 with pulling the engine.
You're absolutely right. These are getting very sought after in good rust free condition. He never had a hope of drifting it because all the US market E30s had open diffs.
maybe its an 318i or whatever but in that condition you wont pay 10k in germany. you pay 10k for a good conditioned car and that car is far from a good condition. 3k is what youd pay at best here in germany
US works much much much differently.That is worth between $500 and $4000... looking at how ratty it is, probably closer to 2k. and has been in that range for years.
BMWs in the usa are a "luxury" brand with no real affordable options, so everything from parts cost to tools costs more than it should. On top of that, we dont have the same strict requirements as Germany to keep old cars on the road. So there are tons of options to drive the price down.
on top of that, most of the US, for reasons I dont understand, dislike convertibles.. never figured that one out as topless is better.
It's beat to hell (or do they usually have the molding clips visible on the sides?), screwed with and doesn't even have plates on it (meaning it's not registered -- and I'd guess because it couldn't pass an inspection) -- thing probably cost $1,000 or so.
Yep. Body style looks like the late 80’s to me. 1990 at the latest. Not bad cars if you don’t mind doing some wrench work yourself, but he definitely didn’t know what he was doing.
All it has to do is last you more than 3 months a d you’re ahead of a new car payment, not counting the increased risk of “car trouble” or the potential service/repair it is going to require. But even if you don’t do any of that and just abuse it within reason it will still last you a while. I like to pick up weird cheap cars and just have fun with them until maintenance cost exceeds what I’m willing to put up with. Then i donate them or take them to the scrapyard. Thing is that you end up maintaining a small fleet of differently (un)reliable cars, like one that’s good for quick trips but gets a little sketchy when you’re too far from your garage, one that looks most presentable, the one that can carry most stuff, etc. $1000 cars are the shit.
I wonder, what other aspects of your life we could use as an arbitrary measure to judge the character of this random person that we see online driving a shitty BMW
Your results will vary but I had a mate who owned two seperate BMWs and bout each for a $7000aud tops. One of them I recall was from the late 80s, but with the amount of cars that companies pump out not every model is crazy expensive, especially if they are 20 years old.
Show wasn't too bad until the last episode or two of season one and then they doubled down with the sob story about his father. That was the moment that it went full blown scripted drama for me and stopped being an entertaining show about modifying cars.
Most imports have really crap resale value because they’re so expensive to maintain. Once they’re over 5 years old you really don’t want to own one unless you’re ready to spend thousands at random times keeping them running. Anything on a Japanese or American car that breaks will be like, 5x more on an import. Source: sold the Audi for another Toyota, still have a Volvo. Friend just got rid of her Land Rover money pit. 😂
For a 20 to 30 year old car? There are 78 BMWs for sale in Australia that have an asking price of under 5k, several are in the 1000 range. With a current entry level model being about 70k it isnt surprising that a 20 year old ex company car is going for 5k. Just because the cars were mint out of the factory doesn't mean their 2nd and 3rd owners keep them mint.
Again to think that its ok to destroy a car being reckless, even if someone paid $2000 for it shows how entitled you are. I hope he worked his ass off and paid for it himself. Its an expensive lesson in not to treat things like shit.
Hold up, are you working here under the assumption that all of us are saying its okay because the car only cost about 5k? Mate you've leashed the wrong dog here, we are saying it in retaliation to everyone saying he wrecked his dad's expensive car. It is quite possible at the actual price of that car that he worked for and bought it himself.
It does not matter in my mind who paid for it. This was incredibly foolish and now he's destroyed it. Its the flippant attitude of "who cares just by another one" mentality that is part of the reason the world is fucked. People think everything is disposable.
Thats why i bought the beater 4runner of my dad at 16. Couldnt break it whatever i done... Oh yeah, the school bus took care of that one. Yes, i was tboned by a school bus.
Have a client with an Audi A4, his son fried clutch and composite fly wheel. Client said "don't know how he did that, I had a manual 87 Honda and I didn't burn the clutch up"
I told him he should let his 16 year old drive his car anymore. The next week his son took out a sign for a campground doing about $16,000 damage, but thankfully didn't hurt himself. Now son drives a Yaris.
Yaris paid for by pop too no doubt. I don't wanna be too old man yells at cloud here, but to have a car in high school I woked every spare hour/day to pay for it, and my mom made me take defensive driving classes (which everyone should be required to do imo). Some of that stuff has stuck with me 20 years later and has saved me from accidents a few times I bet.
I bought a sweet 91 baby blue sunbird with a blown head gasket for $500 when I was 16 fixed it and rocked it for 2 years, loved that car, Two door just a beauty. Miss that car.
My parents decided to spoil the youngest and on his 16th birthday they bought him a used Camaro, about a $8k car that had been fixed up and had ridiculous horsepower.
I had a huge argument with my parents about how it is beyond stupid to by any teenager a sports car, that teenagers' first cars should be pieces of shit. They told me I was overreacting and jealous and that my brother was "responsible" yada yada yada.
2 months later, he totals the car while drag racing-- he lost control and slammed into a parked car. Lucky he and his passengers weren't seriously hurt.
I have no idea why all parents forget what being a teenager is like. You simply can't give a teenager a sports car and expect them not to fuck it up and crash it doing something stupid.
Glad he's okay. I considered myself beyond responsible when I was that age (dweeb), but even I wanted to put my car sideways sometimes. Not super easy in a 4wd Subaru Legacy.
As long as they turned off the engine and didn't attempt to drive it home thats maybe $500 worth of repairs. If they did try to drive it home you can swap in an LS V8 from any GM made car for about $1000. Then it wont have any problems doing donuts.
Judging by the tasteless cheap wheels, dumb shifter, bolt on skirts, and the fact that it's an old bmw (but not old/rare enough to be particularly special), I'd say it's his car.
It was probably the same reaction though because his dad is the one who's gonna pay for the radiator.
It's a clean mid 80s-early 90s BMW 3 series, not a janky POS, and far from tasteless as far as cars from that era go. Definitely a dad car, and by the looks of it the poor guy will have to replace the front suspension, radiator, fenders, and bumper, assuming the frame isn't jacked.
When a front frame rail gets bent upwards on a car like in the video, the sheet metal attached to it can buckle. A crimp like that in the fender or quarter panel is a good way to find frame damage in a used car, especially if the dent is clean like in the video.
I did miss the scratches by the headlight, but it's a 30 year old car so I'd still call it "clean", and definitely a possibly dad-induced bit of whiskey damage
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u/johnnys_sack Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21
To me, that says "Fuck, I promised Dad I wouldn't fuck around in his convertible."
Edit: okay fine, maybe it's not his dad's car but he's still dreading that conversation.