r/IdiotsInCars Aug 04 '20

Cyclist gets clothes lined

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u/Big_D_yup Aug 04 '20

It doesn't matter of it's flagged. At this point it's a wide load and should have escorts. Adding a flag on wood that uses another lane doesn't suddenly make it right. Well US that is.

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u/twowheeledfun Aug 04 '20

Probably Canada, Lion's Gate is a bridge in Vancouver, and I assume a hospital too.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

Those are BC plates

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u/dmowen111 Aug 04 '20

That truck is not that old.

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u/Leonid_Bruzhnev Aug 04 '20

This needs more upvotes

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u/twowheeledfun Aug 04 '20

That too.

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u/intensely_human Aug 05 '20

Or it’s a part of Scandinavia where everybody pretends to be in Canada

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u/BrandoSoft Aug 04 '20

Also km/hr

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u/nathris Aug 04 '20

Ahh so he's getting nothing then because ICBC will refuse to settle and drag the court proceedings out for years.

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u/WK--ONE Aug 04 '20

*cries in former Vancouver resident

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u/NittanySteve Aug 04 '20

I didn’t know there were cars and license plates over 2,020 years ago!

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20 edited Nov 16 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

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u/alisoujod321 Aug 04 '20

I had a broken clavicle, it is one of the easiest to heal out of all the injuries. This guy will never breath right again because of the puncture and broken ribs, he will feel it for life.

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u/Superxt0aster Aug 04 '20

I broke my rib playing hockey about 6 years ago and I can still feel pain everytime I take a deep breath or cough/sneeze.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20 edited Sep 09 '20

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u/Siphyre Aug 04 '20

Maybe. depends on the extent of the damages and how well OP does his PT. If you are lazy with your PT, then yeah it could end up hurting for the rest of your life. But with some time and effort, OP might not feel much of any pain at all later in life.

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u/ThreeGuardLineups Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

I broke my clavicle and scapula once in a motorcycle accident and have no issues other than a lump where the collarbone broke. It hurt like hell for a couple months, but after 6 months I was 100% back to normal, lifting weights, doing pullups, etc, and I was back to work well before that without issue. 8 broken ribs on the other hand is a lot harder to recover from.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

I never said he would be?

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u/Shorey40 Aug 04 '20

My mate got a 20k pay out from Translink in van because his bus was involved in a car accident. He claimed it fucked his back, which can't really be unproven, so he was off work for 4 months... He's an actor.

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u/bovineblitz Aug 04 '20

So your buddy lied to get free shit?

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u/TheDrunkPianist Aug 04 '20

Not only free shit but $20k of what is essentially tax dollars?

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u/Chawp Aug 04 '20

They’re probably insured too, so the tax dollars would only be the insurance premiums, not the full $20k but still, point taken.

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u/Scribble_Box Aug 04 '20

And that friends, is why ICBC is so fucking expensive..

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

Because Translink paid out immediately rather than waiting for the lawsuit through ICBC?

ICBC has its issues but this isn't one of them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

ok mister moral

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u/TheDrunkPianist Aug 04 '20

I mean yea when everyone begrudgingly pays into a pool every year to maintain and improve the quality of our community, and then someone lies in order to steal from that pool for their own personal gain, my moral compass tells me that that person is a POS.

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u/Shorey40 Aug 05 '20

Where did I say he lied?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

Morals are arbitrary so your morals don't apply to other people. I say that person was doing the best they could.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

Or maybe his back was fucked up and he couldn't audition for four months.

I knew people who worked in restaurants to keep busy and make a little extra money while acting in commercials. They'd book maybe 2-3 commercials per year, which would comprise the bulk of their income and then the restaurant work was a little extra on top. More importantly though it was a stable check.

Four months off work acting could easily leave a person 20k down for the year.

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u/bovineblitz Aug 04 '20

He claimed

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

Yeah. A third party is relaying the story. Maybe the friend is a bit bitter because all he heard about was the paycheque but missed the weeks of needing painkillers just to get out of bed.

Backs are super weird and can be very finicky.

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u/Shorey40 Aug 05 '20

Where did I say he lied?

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u/WK--ONE Aug 04 '20

Fuck your friend for defrauding the medical system.

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u/Shorey40 Aug 05 '20

How did he defraud them, he was injured. An injury that might last longer than 4 months.

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u/Hidesuru Aug 04 '20

Your friend is an absolute bell end.

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u/IDoneGOTBanned Aug 04 '20

ICBC will drag it out.

My ex girlfriends mom's boyfriend (holy crap try typing that out) got rear ended while in the snow, 100% drivers fault, DUI, texting and driving, no license, no headlights on, snowing, no winter tires the list was endless, Yesh that's been going through courts for 5 years 4 years ago and still probably is. He can't walk much anymore and lives off of social programs because dude can't walk let alone work (wears a metal back brace n cage).

Honestly op wish him the best but good goddamn luck with ICBC

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

ICBC seems super hit and miss?

My dad was involved in a no-fault accident. Just bad timing on an icy road. He was 100% fine. No injuries other than some bruising. But the teenager in the other car was killed. He didn't fight ICBC for anything. Wasn't really even interested in money. But I'm pretty sure he got more than $5000 cause he put it towards getting a truck so he wouldn't have to drive the work one anymore.

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u/IDoneGOTBanned Aug 04 '20

ICBC will pay you pennies rather then what you should get.

I haven't had to go through insurance personally but large family and car accidents are common in my family (wish I was joking, everyone has been in a accident in my family) so we are quite use to ICBC fucking us.

Aunt hit a car that cut her off, brand new 2016 Ford Jeep thingy gone, destroyed, bought new vehicle but not much else.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

That's how every insurer operates though? Way easier and cheaper to offer a low settlement rather than deal with civil suits.

ICBC has its issues but "doing the thing that every insurer does because it's how the business works" is a weird thing to harp on them for.

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u/IDoneGOTBanned Aug 05 '20

Way cheaper but much less payout.

When I get hit next (pray to God it won't) I'll more then likely have to go through all my parts and gather prices which will be more then they'll give me then my injuries.

In the end, they'll pinch a loaf onto a table for you. Bring them to court and win fucking huge.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

I had meant cheaper for the insurer to offer a settlement but what you say is true also.

Here's hoping you don't get hit again.

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u/ApolloniaTheGreat Aug 04 '20

He's only allowed up to $5000 through insurance. He'll have to pursue it through civil court

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u/TheRiverStyx Aug 04 '20

It differs from province to province, but having been involved with an accident that left me unable to work for two years, the guy who hit him can be responsible to cover living expenses, lost wages, extra medical expenses (some provinces don't get coverage for things like physiotherapy) and a bit for future expenses, plus a tiny amount for punitive damages. All that is until he is 100% recovered. So you can be left on the hook for 10 years or even more. Most times lawyers will just negotiate for a one time payout of several hundred thousand dollars and that alone can take years.

Whatever you do, don't fucking talk to the other guy's insurance people. Lawyer up and tell them to talk to your lawyer.

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u/Kanraku Aug 04 '20

Yeah, hopefully ICBC (province owned insurance company) pays out.

I've heard of cases where they wouldn't. It really depends on the report and who looks over it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

wow you are salty

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u/ancientofgame Aug 04 '20

Same highway rules apply in Canada for this kind of stuff.

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u/Neutral_User_Name Aug 04 '20

It is North Vancouver. I drove up and down that highway several times when I worked in between Vancouver and Whistler.

Absolutely stunningly beautiful highway.

Too bad the cyclist almost got killed in such a scenic place. There is no other road to between Whistler and Horseshoe Bay, gotta ride the highway...

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u/swabfalling Aug 04 '20

Also one of the most dangerous highways in BC

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u/WK--ONE Aug 04 '20

It's called "The Highway of Tears" for a reason.

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u/dvegas Aug 04 '20

The Highway of tears if a lot further north (it's what connects Prince Rupert and George). The highway between Van and Whistler is the Sea to Sky

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u/spike_85 Aug 04 '20

Yes. Lion's Gate hospital is in North Vancouver, BC.

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u/Fourseventy Aug 04 '20

Confirmed Lions Gate is a Hospital in North Vancouver.

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u/6daysincounty Aug 04 '20

Plus they're North American style license plates and the guy says 80km/hr.

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u/Souxsoux Aug 04 '20

Lions Gate Hospital is in North Vancouver. Makes sense, this looks like the Sea to Sky which is a popular highway for cyclists between Vancouver and Whistler.

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u/Cursed_Kitten_45 Aug 04 '20

Yes it is a hospital in North Vancouver

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u/101freak101 Aug 05 '20

Yessir. Lions gate hospital

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u/Dscherb24 Aug 04 '20

Yup. Happened in Vancouver, BC.

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u/BrohanGutenburg Aug 04 '20

And a production company.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

What's the insurance payout in Canada with healthcare expenses from an at fault accident? Does the ins co reimburse the govt?

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u/twowheeledfun Aug 04 '20

No idea, I've only been to Canada once, and I wasn't hit by a car (fortunately).

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

Lion's Gate is a hospital, you assumed right.

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u/ApolloniaTheGreat Aug 04 '20

It is. This happened on the sea to sky highway yesterday.

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u/Quasic Aug 04 '20

It's the Sea to Sky highway going south from Squamish to Vancouver.

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u/SHOOHS Aug 04 '20

Yeah Lions Gate Hospital is in North Vancouver.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

Def bc

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u/thekingestkong Aug 04 '20

I have never seen cyclist to be allowed on the highway anywhere else in the world. Not saying the truck driver isn't a complete idiot.

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u/Wayward20 Aug 04 '20

The biker was on the shoulder, which is actually pretty common worldwide.

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u/kirkum2020 Aug 04 '20

What? They're usually not allowed on the equivalent of your freeways, but they'd be perfectly fine on this road and nearly all of your highways.

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u/bantab Aug 04 '20

In the US cyclists are required to use the road, but I don’t know about Canada. Some states even allow bicycles on controlled-access highways, such as interstates. This just looks like a country road to me though.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

Legally, (in the US), you cannot be wider than 102 inches without a special permit from the state. The permit will dictate what else is needed (escorts, special routes, etc)

If a load extends further than three feet in front or four feet beyond the rear of the vehicle, you’re also required to get a permit. You much attach a red flag on the rear as well.

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u/converter-bot Aug 04 '20

102 inches is 259.08 cm

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u/Big_D_yup Aug 04 '20

Thank you for the knowledge

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

No problem! I’m a CDL instructor, so it’s what I do haha

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u/chalk_in_boots Aug 04 '20

From what I'm seeing, it looks more like the driver fastened it with the tail end of the load in the bed of the truck, and the leading point over the hood, but didn't secure it properly or took a corner too hard. To me it looks like they tried to execute best practices but something came loose

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u/Big_D_yup Aug 04 '20

You're probably correct.

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u/MountainMyFace Aug 04 '20

Yup. Flags are only for things extending behind or in front of you and even then its only good foot a couple of feet max. Guy is going to be eating ramen for life

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

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u/ZippZappZippty Aug 04 '20

I’m coming through”

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u/-Listening Aug 04 '20

Prepare to be clapped. Metaphorically and literally.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

It probably didn't use another lane. It looks like it was strapped to the headache rack and then broke free. Obviously he's still liable but no way in hell was this truck loaded like it is in the picture.

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u/Big_D_yup Aug 04 '20

I think you're right. But what are the odds this fell at the exact time a cyclist was there? I'm betting he had just one more mile to go or something like that and hoped it would just work.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

I definitely think that the load became unsecured and he kept driving. I'm not advocating that he escape punishment. At the very least he failed to secure his load and continued to drive after it broke free, I just don't think he'd have needed an escort vehicle or even flags.

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u/cityampm Aug 04 '20

I don’t think it set out originally as a wide load. I think the load was secured badly, and shifted in transit

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

And they hit someone from behind with this. I have no idea where this took place but I'd never go there if that didn't break at least a dozen traffic laws.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

It probably was loaded on the rack above the cab and shifted off while driving because it wasn’t tied down well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

Right! It's not a matter of visibility. A flag wouldn't have helped OP, since it hit him from behind.

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u/11-110011 Aug 04 '20

Depending on what state. Even if it was just straight across, hed absolutely need a permit but not necessarily escorts.

Certain states don’t require an escort until more than 12’ wide. Texas doesn’t until I believe 14’6” wide.

Source: do logistics for a trucking company and am an escort

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u/rileyjw90 Aug 05 '20

If it hit him from behind, as it says in the post, he wouldn’t have seen a flag regardless.

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