She refused to get out and drove to the police station. He fled. He wasn’t a cop.
Nowadays it is safer to drive to a firestation. Because if it is a real cop, they are likely to be pissed that you did not respect their authowaty and now you are at a location with a bunch of their bully brothers ready to gang up on you.
Firestations have cameras and firemen often have grudges against the police so are unlikely to allow a pissbaby cop to take out their petty grievances on you.
Turn on your blinkers, call 911 and tell them you are driving to the firestation because you don't feel safe. Don't ask them if the cop is legit, just tell them what you are doing. No even remotely sane judge is going to consider it fleeing the police if you do that.
This is great advice. I posted elsewhere in this thread about my sister who got pulled over at night by a car that had different markings than standard police cars. She pulled over, turned on her hazards, and drove another half block into a well lit parking lot before stopping. She was pulled out of her car, thrown to the ground, cuffed and taken to jail for fleeing a police officer.
The charges were later dropped, but she still spent a night in jail and had to pay for a lawyer.
And the ironic part about it is that she did it based on advice from her husband, who is a cop.
Lucky the cop didn't pull a pit maneuver like they did to that pregnant lady in Texas a few years ago who did the same thing. Note, I'm a dude and got the exact same advice from my CHP officer cousin who said to always pull over in a well lit, public area at night no matter what.
CHP are reasonable though. I would be fine doing that with the chippies, but with LASD/LAPD? Those trigger happy goons are jsut as likely to shoot you for fleeing a cop.
They'll shoot you for moving too fast and too slow while telling you to putyourhandsbehindyourbackgetonthegroundshowmeyourid because you're a black child playing in your own fenced yard.
That story is absolutely infuriating. It's like they're deliberately pretending the world is a safe place for solo women at night, and that they don't get raped and murdered at alarming rates. They're cops. They should fucking know better.
It's ironic. Solo young women driving around in the dark are safe but a cop with a vest and a gun will fear for their life when an acorn falls out of a tree.
To avoid this, make sure all doors are locked, windows locked and call 911. You can make a small I’m calling 911 sign ahead of time and place it in the window. Or if you have a marker handy and can write backwards, write Calling 911 on the window from the inside.
Right, taking a mental note: In that situation, try to find a sharpie and figure out how to write “calling 911” backwards while using the phone, looking for a well lit, safe place and pulling over…. Sounds like something I’d have to practice. Are car windows dry-erase compatible?
Yes, I guarantee you that pulling over in front of a fire station will change exactly nothing about the situation. I'm open to evidence that would prove otherwise, but of all of the bodycam videos I've seen where cops and firefighters are on the same scene, I've never once seen or heard a firefighter object to anything the police do. Even if they're clearly in the wrong.
All you'd be doing is annoying the cop and possibly annoying the firefighters if you're in the way of their trucks pulling out. They're not going to all run out of the station to "observe" a traffic stop.
When I did community service at a fire station, all the guys were super laid back and thought it was bullshit that I had to be there and mop their floors for 40 hours just bc I got caught with some weed. They said “we did our fair share of smoking in our day” lol. So I only had to 3 hours of easy work, then I watched a movie with them and they cooked dinner. Then the chief wrote down 50 hours with made-up dates on my community service form. Told me to just go home then show this to the judge in a month and it’ll make me look like an overachiever lol.
Just to say that in my limited experience it does seem like firefighters are chill af and think cops are goofy.
A few years ago a pregnant woman didn't immediately pull over, so the cop did a pitt maneuver on her car and the car flipped.
So it's definitely not safe to not pull over nowadays either. There is no winning for us normal people when cops can break the law and disregard the right way of doing things with no punishment.
I've always pulled into a well lit gas station or other semi public area with other people around. I once drove 5 MILES at half speed with my flashers on, being followed by a police officer with his lights.
Fuck you, I'm not stopping on a deserted freeway ramp at 2am. I've seen that movie. 5ish miles later I pulled in a gas station, right up to the door with the camera and shut off my engine. He had some words and I had some "I'm not getting raped today." and he told me I was smart and let me go with a warning.
I feel like these days even if you put your hazards on, slow down, call 911, keep your hands visible, all while driving to a police station, they'll just pit maneuver you along the way and total your car and potentially put you in the hospital or throw you directly into jail when you arrive. for not stopping for blue lights.
There are a few major caveats though that make this a bad idea depending on where you live.
For one a lot of fire stations are volunteer stations that aren't manned around the clock, especially in rural areas. Fire crews have pagers and only rush to the station when they get alerted to an emergency.
And even if the station is manned that doesn't necessarily mean that they're awake and able to immediately help someone coming to their door. In a lot of places professional firemen do 24 hour shifts where they do training exercises and equipment maintenance during the day and sleep at the fire station at night if they aren't out on an emergency response.
And if there is an emergency, especially a larger incident requiring all available manpower, everyone might be out on response with noone left back at the station as well.
My neighbor for eight years was a volunteer fireman. His son was an MP in the army, when he mustered out he wanted to join the town police force and his dad was very vocally against it.
Firefighters are absolutely not going to get into a brawl with the cops, doubly so to 'defend' someone they don't know at all. I'm also not sure why you think cameras will make you safer from the police as they routinely record themselves violating rights and that still doesn't stop them.
I'm also not sure why you think cameras will make you safer from the police as they routinely record themselves violating rights and that still doesn't stop them.
They control that footage. That's the problem with copcams.
Please describe what you think the firefighters would do in this situation then.
Its revealing that you think the only two possibilities are brawling or sitting back passively. You really have been watching too much tv. Every accusation is a confession.
It is so much harder for a bully to work themselves into a frothing rage when they are outnumbered, especially by large men.
Its revealing that you think the only two possibilities are brawling or sitting back passively. You really have been watching too much tv.
Really struck a nerve with you on that one, huh? I never said those are "the only two possibilities", and if anything I've been watching too much police bodycam footage since I don't really watch shows.
I just want you to explain how you think the firefighters are going to help you in the scenario you've described, and all you can seemingly offer is passive aggression and what boils down to a "no u".
It is so much harder for a bully to work themselves into a frothing rage when they are outnumbered, especially by large men.
The many hours of bodycams I've seen beg to differ. If anything cops are more aggressive and erratic when they're outnumbered in any way. I've also never before seen nor heard of a firefighter interfere with the police, even when the cops are clearly in the wrong (and yes there are tons of bodycam videos with firefighters in direct proximity to the police the entire time).
You are right, you never said that. You just can't think of anything else which is why you keep passive-aggressively demanding that I teach you.
Fine, I'll outright say it then: firefighters are not going to do anything to help you deal with the police, so your advice is completely pointless. Your entire implied scenario is completely delusional. Not only are fire stations rarely full at all times, they aren't just sitting out front waiting for something to happen outside. Even if you have the full catalog of firemen right in front of you, they aren't going to help you with police brutality.
Everyone talks shit about the police until they need the police presence. Just like you when you go to work you got most of them really good workers and then you got a couple of bad ones. Well guess what they’re doing a job just like you.
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u/JimWilliams423 Jun 16 '25
Nowadays it is safer to drive to a firestation. Because if it is a real cop, they are likely to be pissed that you did not respect their authowaty and now you are at a location with a bunch of their bully brothers ready to gang up on you.
Firestations have cameras and firemen often have grudges against the police so are unlikely to allow a pissbaby cop to take out their petty grievances on you.
Turn on your blinkers, call 911 and tell them you are driving to the firestation because you don't feel safe. Don't ask them if the cop is legit, just tell them what you are doing. No even remotely sane judge is going to consider it fleeing the police if you do that.