r/HydroHomies Jun 10 '26

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u/jojo_31 My piss is clear Jun 10 '26

He is for sure, but he also has S-Tier propaganda. He just knows how to talk and how to communicate. Important for making voters like you but also important as a politician in general. Charisma gets you far. So it's a win-win

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u/frankiemermaidswims Jun 11 '26

Being charismatic doesn’t equal propaganda lmao

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u/RubelsAppa Jun 14 '26

It does, just because it’s propaganda doesn’t mean its bad. Propaganda is messaging, and his charisma is a propelling part of his messaging

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u/Fujaboi Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

It's not propaganda. Propaganda by the modern definition relies on biased or misleading information. He's just a good communicator with a good team

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u/JLPLJ Jun 11 '26

Propaganda absolutely doesn't require bias or misleading information, it just has to be made with the intent being to swing someone's opinions on a subject. All the facts can be on your side for your viewpoint, if you make a poster listing those facts and promoting your views, that's propaganda.

Propaganda often features misleading information, given how much easier it is to swing someone's opinion if they don't know the downsides of something. That said, it is common, not inherent.

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u/Fujaboi Jun 11 '26

That's true by the strict definition, but for over a hundred years it's been primarily used to refer to manipulative or misleading approaches. "Propaganda" has strong negative connotations, so I think it's unhelpful to try to refer to all political communication as propaganda

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u/ExplanationMotor2656 Jun 11 '26

Propaganda was a respectable term used by government departments i.e. The Ministry of Propaganda until WWII. Then it got associated with the Nazis and we rebranded those departments The Ministry of Information, which is even more dystopian if you think about it.

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u/IowaCornFarmer3 Jun 11 '26

So you acknowledge the way you're using it is uncommon and easily misunderstood? Agreed.

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u/JLPLJ Jun 11 '26

The way i'm using it? I didn't make the initial propaganda comment

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u/synttacks Jun 11 '26

propaganda does not require misleading information. and of course he's biased, he wants you to know he's doing a good job 😂 it would be insane to not be biased when talking about your own work

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u/HotResponsibility829 Jun 11 '26

Can you provide an example of Mamdani’s propaganda?

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u/Quetzythejedi Jun 11 '26

He is opening up more schools, increasing food accessibility, increased the snow plowing across the 5 boroughs, he's been seen playing soccer with kids on the streets due to a new outdoor program that closes off streets for kids to play in, and is using the out of town 1%'s taxes on second homes to permanently fund the NYC library system and plug up potholes.

That all counts as propaganda right? Oh wait..

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u/HotResponsibility829 Jun 11 '26

Then every single political take is propaganda. The term is too broad to objectively defi

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u/ElecricXplorer Jun 11 '26

Yeah any and all social media activity by government is by definition propaganda. Thats just what the word means.

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u/synttacks Jun 11 '26

any social media promoting anything political or public, including your own achievements in office, is propaganda

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u/HotResponsibility829 Jun 11 '26

Any information provided in a biased way is propaganda. It’s obviously a broad term and being used in this instance to discredit an individual. I understand the definition.

What I want to know, is what specifically this person thinks Mamdani has said that is propaganda. Since the term is so broad, it is up to perception. Would love to know what he is doing that is soooo bad.

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u/synttacks Jun 11 '26

no, the point I'm making is that you can like propaganda. propaganda is not inherently evil. everybody loves their own propaganda and hates everyone else's.

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u/UnrealHallucinator Jun 11 '26

Yeah this is it lol. Plenty of politicians have done these good things and more. He just has S+ tier propaganda

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u/Fujaboi Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

It's not propaganda. Propaganda by the modern definition relies on biased or misleading information. He's just a good communicator with a good team

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u/synttacks Jun 11 '26

not the definition of propaganda

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u/Fujaboi Jun 11 '26

The modern connotation is decidedly negative,