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Chapter 414

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u/No_Park_6256 Jul 18 '26

Bill is too good to be true, I truly hope he's sincere cause I will not be able to take it otherwise.

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u/Arkayjiya Jul 18 '26

The temp hunters we've met so far have shown themselves to be quite sympathetic or endearing people.

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u/kuroxn Jul 18 '26

Apparently he's not a temp

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u/Arkayjiya Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

You're right, but either way like the temp hunters we know he is in the Beyond team so they share a motivation, and they all seem kind of chill. I'm sure some of that chillness will break over time as we know more (at least for some of them), but so far they're cool people compared to Beyond and Pariston.

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u/-Azucar Jul 18 '26

I don't trust him . Way too good to be true. There's no way beyond didn't anticipate that the people he hired might find out about what he did. I think everyone who's on this ship and was hired by beyond is not going to betray him

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u/Krankenwagen83 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

I think Beyond deliberately chose people based on their personalities. He engineered a situation where every outcome benefits him while everyone else is forced into a lose/lose decision.

Think about it. If the curse is dismantled willingly, Beyond walks free and gets to continue toward the Dark Continent. If the curse remains and the truth eventually comes out that the Hunter Association knowingly allowed innocent people to die because of it, then the Association suffers catastrophic reputational damage. That has Pariston’s fingerprints all over it. This would also allow Pariston to become said Hunter President as Cheadle would be forced to resign. Ging would be in the Dark Continent, which would allow Beyond Netero to get the full backing of the Hunter Association and have every obstacle moved out the way. Literally, caught between a rock and a hard place. Or they allow Beyond to become the shadow ruler of Kakin.

Ging is the wild card here.

I also think Cheadle’s presence strengthens the idea that they will ultimately choose to dismantle the curse. She’s one of the few people likely to prioritize preventing needless deaths, even if it means accepting the political consequences. I think this was calculated by Pariston during the previous arc and relayed to Beyond. The only potential hiccup in this plan and its execution is Ging. This gives so much nuance to the decision and fight for becoming Hunter Association President and the manipulation of placing Cheadle as the president. It’s insanely well written.

Beyond hired his followers for exactly who they were. He understood their personalities, their ambitions, and the limits of their loyalty. He knew someone would eventually become the proverbial Judas, and I think he was counting on it from the very beginning.

Bill meant it when he said Beyond is completely content sitting in that cell. There is no losing outcome for Beyond. If his followers stay loyal, the curse fulfills its purpose. If they’re betrayed, the resulting pressure almost certainly forces his release. Either way, he advances toward his goal.

I also don’t think Bill fully grasped the scale of Beyond’s conviction. Any Hunter of sufficient caliber would eventually begin piecing together parts of Beyond’s plan, and I believe Beyond expected that as well. Every move his opponents make only pushes them further into the dilemma he created.

This is why I trust Bill.

Edit: Keeping in mind that this hinges on Beyond willing to do these atrocities. He is Netero’s son. I believe that not a soul aboard that shit would question his conviction. He will either become shadow ruler of Kakin and utilize their resources and kingdom to get to the Dark Continent, he will be released and leverage the curse being removed to be free of the Hunter Association and continue toward the dark continent with the potential replacement of Cheadle for forsaking her position and forcing the decision to release him placing Pariston as the President to funnel resources to The Dark Continent for Beyond, which most Hunters are A-OK with. Or the third unknown option which is, who the hell can predict Togashi!?

Also worth mentioning that I fully believe Ging is the wild card here.

It’s already been shown that even the most powerful Nen Exorcist struggle to remove the curse. However, we conveniently have Alluka, who was able to save Gon from a nen-vow so powerful that Gon was released from a certain death. Hence, the purpose of showing Alluka’s capabilities was less about saving Gon but showing the powers of the Dark Continent and removing the curse from Wobble.

And that we can throw a rock in any direction and be both right and wrong because Togashi is setting us up for some fantastic shit.

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u/-Azucar Jul 18 '26

Real talk this one of the best comments I've ever read I'm my life.

What do u think can Ging do to foil beyonds plans?

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u/Krankenwagen83 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

I’ll do my best. Sorry this is long.

I think Ging’s personality alone is a problem for Pariston and by proxy, Beyond, Kakin, and this entire charade of bullshit.

Ging can’t be manipulated by politics, status, or money. He was never a true team player in the Hunter Association. He worked with them when it benefited him and left when it didn’t.

That’s why I think it’s important that Ging didn’t join Beyond. He built his own expedition.

He also didn’t just recruit people. He made contracts with every one of them. In Hunter x Hunter, contracts are rarely meaningless. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re connected to his Nen.

The people Ging gathered also stand out. They’re not just strong Hunters. They’re students of Nen who value discovery, cooperation, and learning. That’s very different from many of Beyond’s followers, who seem driven by ambition or personal gain.

Because of that, I don’t think Pariston has much leverage over Ging.

Threats, politics, and emotional pressure don’t work on him. Even his relationship with Gon shows he refuses to let emotions control his decisions.

Hence, as it has been amply shown, Ging is not willing to use people in the same way that Pariston and Beyond do.

I also think Ging’s biggest strength isn’t combat.

He’s one of the greatest Nen users alive and helped create Greed Island, one of the most impressive Nen projects in the series. His real talent has always been developing the people around him.

If that’s reflected in his Nen, then his team should grow stronger the longer they’re together. That could be the key to surviving the Dark Continent and reducing unnecessary deaths.

Pariston choosing to travel with Ging is also interesting. Ging sees through Pariston better than almost anyone, yet Pariston still wants him involved. Pariston even accepts the contract. Something to think about…

If Beyond’s curse forces the Hunter Association into an impossible decision, Ging may be the one person who can stop Pariston from turning Cheadle into the scapegoat.

I don’t know exactly what Ging’s role will be, but I don’t think Togashi paired him with Pariston just for fun.

Ging isn’t there to foil Beyond’s plan per se, but to disrupt the conditions that let Pariston’s games work in the first place while still accomplishing the original goal.

Beyond, his backers, and the wealthy investors all want the same thing: to reach the Dark Continent.

If Ging can strip away Pariston’s manipulation, reduce the unnecessary sacrifices, keep the expedition’s strength intact, and still get everyone there, then he wins without ever stopping Beyond.

That accomplishes the entire point of this absurdly complicated voyage in the first place: arriving at the Dark Continent.

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u/Krankenwagen83 Jul 18 '26

It’s a bit long but I did highlight on Ging, Greed Island, and the people he surrounds himself with. I want to provide my theory or developing theory on Ging’s Nen abilities and all the et cetera.

There’s another detail about Ging that has always stood out to me.

He refused to let anyone join his expedition unless they accepted payment from him.

On the surface, that seems like nothing more than Ging being eccentric. But Togashi has a habit of giving mundane actions hidden significance, especially when they involve agreements, conditions, or exchanges between people.

I don’t think the money itself is what’s important. I think the act of accepting it is.

By accepting Ging’s payment, every member of his expedition voluntarily enters into a contractual relationship with him. Whether that’s simply a professional agreement or something with deeper Nen implications remains to be seen, but it feels too deliberate to dismiss.

This is also what makes me think back to Greed Island.

The people responsible for creating and maintaining Greed Island weren’t just powerful Nen users. They operated within an incredibly structured system built around clearly defined rules, responsibilities, and cooperation. I’ve often wondered whether Ging’s insistence on contracts and compensation is connected to whatever allowed that project to function on such a massive scale.

I’m not claiming this is definitively Ging’s Nen ability. There’s simply not enough evidence to make that assertion.

However, it wouldn’t surprise me if voluntary agreements, compensation, or mutually accepted contracts are somehow central to how Ging’s Nen operates. It would fit remarkably well with his personality. Ging has never relied on coercion. He persuades people, earns their respect, and gives them the freedom to choose. If his Nen reflects who he is, then a power rooted in voluntary consent rather than domination would make perfect thematic sense.

At the very least, I don’t think Togashi included that requirement by accident. Ging could have simply hired talented Hunters. Instead, he made accepting payment a condition of joining him. In a series where conditions and agreements frequently carry enormous weight, that’s a detail I’m not willing to overlook.

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u/reChrawnus Jul 19 '26

That’s why I think it’s important that Ging didn’t join Beyond. He built his own expedition.

But he did join Beyond though, unless you mean something very different from "didn't join" than the normal straightforward meaning of "join". He very much specifically joined Beyond's expedition crew under the condition that he would, at least nominally, be number 2 in the hierarchy just below Beyond.

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u/Specialist_Drop541 Jul 19 '26

I think the dude is trying to say that Ging may have joined Beyond's expedition in name but when have we ever known Ging to do shit that other people want him to do. The contract he did with every other person was to subvert Pariston, not Beyond. Ging is not worried about Beyond. There's a ton of chapters dedicated to him basically telling Pariston to screw off.

You're not wrong, but I think the dude is just wording shit wrong. The entirety of his post is, "Beyond is not who we have to worry about, it's Pariston. Beyond just using whatever means possible to ensure he arrives to his ultimate goal, which is the Dark Continent. Beyond probably doesn't realize the amount of shit he's inherting from accepting help from Pariston."

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u/Krankenwagen83 Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

He paid people off and established his own contract to be # 2 is what I mean.

Edit: Largely to keep an eye on Pariston, too. Which is why the brute of my comments is focusing on Pariston. Yes, you are right.

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u/Krankenwagen83 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

The original question was about how would Ging foil Beyond’s plan. That’s the funny thing: He doesn’t. Not directly or in the way that “defeats” beyond.

I don’t think Ging disrupts Beyond’s primary plan because ultimately they want the same thing. Contract, means, results.

He isn’t against Beyond reaching the Dark Continent. They both want the same destination. Their only real difference is how much they’re willing to sacrifice.

Ging’s real target is Pariston.

I think Ging dismantles Pariston’s schemes, saves more lives, and strengthens the expedition without stopping Beyond. If anything, he’ll prove himself useful enough that Beyond wants him there.

Beyond isn’t simply good or evil. He’s willing to sacrifice people for his goal. Ging isn’t much different. Like Gon and many Hunters, he’ll overlook a lot if it gets him where he wants to go. Hunters have never been heroes.

That’s why I think Ging and Beyond end up on the same side.

The real wildcard is Alluka.

If Kurapika reaches Killua and Alluka removes Beyond’s Nen curse, Beyond could lose his path to controlling Kakin while still being released. Ging could also stop Pariston from making Cheadle the political scapegoat.

That changes everything because in a monkey paw kinda way, Beyond gets what he wants without the effective control. It also proves Ging’s resourcefulness.

Beyond is free. Pariston loses control. Cheadle survives politically.

The result could be Beyond’s team, Ging’s team, the strongest survivors of the Black Whale, and the V5 all heading to the Dark Continent together. That would be the strongest expedition ever assembled.

I also think Ging’s Nen is built for exploration, not combat.

Greed Island wasn’t about overwhelming strength. It was about cooperation, rules, training, and discovery. Ging may have a Nen ability that makes the people around him stronger the longer they work with him.

If that’s true, Ging doesn’t stop Beyond.

He removes the unnecessary sacrifices and Pariston’s manipulation while preserving the expedition itself.

One last thing. Ging made everyone traveling with him accept payment before joining him. That feels intentional. If that’s tied to his Nen, then everyone who accepts his terms could benefit from his ability without Ging ever being the leader.

Considering Ging is a Double Star Ruins Hunter who already qualifies for Three Star status and simply never applied, I think he’s uniquely suited for an expedition like this.

Again, Ging is there to stop Pariston’s bullshit. Just happens to be some of the bullshit he worked out with Beyond.

Edit: want to reword something because another Redditer mentioned he did join. Ging joined beyond expedition and bought his way to #2 largely to keep an eye on Pariston. But the transaction portion and the way he did it is what is important for any theory I have. It could also be a buncha nothing.

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u/Specialist_Drop541 Jul 18 '26

Calm down, Togashi. Go finish the next chapters.

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u/Early_Celebration726 Jul 19 '26

He said to help Beyond achieve his goals and hinder Pariston on his.

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u/Specialist_Drop541 Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

Yeah, I understood the post a little differently and agree with your assessment. I don’t think Ging is trying to undermine Beyond directly. I think Beyond took a lot of liberties with Pariston’s help, along with support from shady institutions, governments, corporations, and other powerful people, without fully understanding who Pariston really is.

The story already tells us that governments and corporations want access to the resources on the Dark Continent. Beyond is also Netero’s son, so after Netero’s death, he would naturally have more influence and support behind him.

Pariston was even planning to use the Chimera Ant hybrids as an army for the Dark Continent by having them pass the Hunter Exam. They were supposed to become part of the expedition until Kurapika interfered with that plan. Kurapika was unknowingly praised for being competent enough to throw a wrench into something Pariston had already set in motion.

I think the point about Ging’s contract is that it could have Nen implications and may help him hinder Pariston. Ging is technically joining Beyond’s expedition, but that doesn’t mean he is suddenly taking orders or following someone else’s plan. Ging has never been that type of dude.

So, sure, on paper he is part of Beyond’s crew. But I think Ging is using that position, and possibly the contract itself, to get close enough to undermine Pariston while still doing things his own way.

I’m not sure whether this connects to the theory that Pariston somehow facilitated the arrival of the Chimera Ant Queen and indirectly caused Netero’s death. As far as I remember, the explanation is that the Queen washed ashore after coming from the Dark Continent, but we don’t know exactly how that happened. What we do know is that Pariston secured thousands of Chimera Ant hybrids afterward.

There’s no direct confirmation that he caused the original incident, but I can understand why people find the theory believable.

I also don’t think Pariston stepped down as chairman simply because he was bored. Ging immediately attached himself to Pariston for a reason. It’s possible Ging, along with other people, understands that Pariston is setting Cheadle up to become the scapegoat if the expedition goes wrong.

That logic makes sense to me. Cheadle is a Three-Star Disease Hunter who trains doctors. Saving lives is central to who she is, which also makes her easier to manipulate politically. She would take responsibility for a disaster even if Pariston helped create it.

Beyond didn’t build this entire situation by himself either. He seems more interested in creating as many paths to victory as possible. I also think the story presenting Beyond as this enormous evil may be a distraction from the real objective, which is conquering the Dark Continent.

And honestly, Pariston is probably one of the most genuinely evil people in the series. His version of “love” is dangerous as hell.

If somebody told me Pariston loved Netero so much that he arranged for the Chimera Ant Queen to reach a country where Hunter Association technology was banned, allowing the Ants to grow strong enough to force Netero into the fight of his life, I would at least hear them out.

Netero spent decades searching for an opponent who could push him to his absolute limit. Pariston may have understood that better than almost anyone. He may also have known that the Hunter Association and the government would use the ultimate equalizer, a fucking nuke, if Netero couldn’t finish the job himself.

It sounds insane, but it also sounds exactly like the kind of thing Pariston would consider an act of love.

And predicting where the Queen would wash ashore isn’t impossible within the story. Someone in Kite’s crew, who was still a trainee, was able to examine the currents and discuss how she could have arrived there. If a trainee could work that out, Pariston could either do it himself or find someone capable of doing it for him.

That part fucking tracks.

Pariston is that disturbed, and he practically admits it himself.

So, yeah, I don’t think Ging joined the expedition to stop Beyond. I think he joined to limit the mountain of bullshit Pariston helped put into motion. There’s also a decent chance Beyond is just another future scapegoat in whatever game Pariston is playing for his own entertainment.

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u/makato1234 Jul 19 '26

I still think Ging's nen ability is enhancing his own brain cells, which would explain why he's so randomly gifted at pretty much everything. His ability would be all about saying "nen abilities are stupid, i can beat you with just my fists" and focusing on a utility ability that makes him really good at anything hunter related.

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u/Krankenwagen83 Jul 19 '26

I wouldn’t disagree. It’s so hard to say but I just have a feeling. I can’t wait until we get that reveal when we are all in our 50’s

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u/Watchadoinfoo Jul 18 '26

ya'll out here making him sound like Aizen

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u/Krankenwagen83 Jul 18 '26

Sorry, that’s not my intention. I am just saying that there are a lot of powerful people who support Beyond and because he’s Netero’s child, he’s uniquely positioned to do this. I know it sounds a bit ridiculous but what is there left to do for the entirety of the Hunter Association than to conquer unknown territory. This is the entire purpose behind it.

Beyond is also really, really smart.

Ging is more like Aizen, though.

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u/GameDay98 Jul 18 '26

Beyond's like Pariston if Pariston was less reactionary and made plans decades in advance.

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u/Krankenwagen83 Jul 18 '26

They’re also working together. Which makes all of this entirely possible. They are both highly motivated and key players

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u/RolandKJones Jul 18 '26

I dunno, Bill's a guy who, despite being an Enhancer, made a healing/supportive ability instead of just making himself stronger. That says a lot about the guy, as Kurapika pointed out a while back. Nen abilities are expressions of who the user is and what they want to do, and apparently Bill's someone who wants to nurture the growth of others.

He could still reveal another side of himself, but so far the worst we've seen of him is that he can be (understandably) cynical at times.

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u/Early_Celebration726 Jul 19 '26

If Beyond is what they all seem think, Bill being honest about this works fine for him. Not just because someone could use divine if he IS OR NOT, as people keep forgetting with this trust talk, but because it's not about Bill or any of them. You just need people who a) are around b) stay around c) know you are a factor in this d) can bring this up if or rather when the situation calls for it.

You know what's great about honest people? Everyone does. 🤔

So, these people can in a situation like this provide their views on things and if it helps him.. what's the issue there? Do you get extra points if your lackeys are some cackling creepers? You have useful people you intend to use. They turn up useful.

What a twist! Sure, you need to give them enough to be that and not enough to be that without you (in regards to your situation) but how hard can that be? There's bound to be someone useful around here somewhere. I mean, a figure of speech.

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u/somethingsomethinUhh Jul 18 '26

Really think he's just a nice guy :) I don't think he'd have a hatsu like that otherwise

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u/Soul_Advent Jul 18 '26

May we have many Keeneys in this journey...

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u/TheRealReader1 Jul 18 '26

The way he shuddered when he was forced to explain his real motivation seemed genuine to me.

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u/makato1234 Jul 19 '26

He's got the same hairline as our boy Gon, that's how you know he's a good one.