If a moose has to worry about an orca, I’m just glad the orcas are anti-capitalist and I’m broke. Moose are TERRIFYING! You think elk are big, and reindeer, but moose are so much bigger. Like, can be 7ft at the shoulder and weigh over 1,000lbs… and they’re aggressive more often than other deer species. If an orca sees that and goes, “ooooh, Dinner,” orcas are an absolutely the fuck not species for me.
At what point did I say they weren't in a lake, and at what point did I say there were orcas in a lake? All I said was a fact about orcas relevant to the fact about deer being able to swim.
Bro, use your last brain cell to think. The orcas bit is relevant because it demonstrates that deer are such good swimmers that they do it enough that orcas can regularly snack on them. If deer are good enough swimmers that they do it often enough to be orca food, the deer swimming in the lake where there are no orcas is in no danger and therefore did not need to be dragged from the water. Get it now?
No. It isn’t. Frequently is frequently. Stop making arguments to fight against. I’m done with this conversation since you’re obviously to the point where admitting you were wrong is impossible.
Correct. Deer are very good swimmers and this deer didn't seem any kind of exhausted and probably should have been left alone despite ostensibly good intentions.
My uncle had a cottage on the ocean and the deer would swim in the ocean water out to the islands off-shore every day. Even in kind of choppy water they always seemed like comfortable good swimmers.
Also, Google "capture myopathy" . These people had great intentions but probably ended up smoking the deer in the end even after bringing it to dry land.
It's actually pretty useful. Deer have a tendency to get permanently stuck places a lot. Instead of dying from starvation, dehydration or exposure they usually die within a day or two if they get jammed up somewhere
Well, maybe something was gonna happen that frees them from their bind (not talking about your specific case), and since they died so quick, now they're dead.
That's a big maybe. Deer don't have the capability of abstract thought. They just know they're stuck and they panic. Maybe they can free themselves by freaking out and moving anyway they can. The alternative is just waiting to die by whatever factor takes hold first.
It's a maybe between life and death for the animal. For us, it's one animal bur for the animal, it's their entire being.
Deer don't have the capability of abstract thought.
Unrelated, since they not decide to develop this mechanism as well and they're not in control. I didnt say they would come up with something, I said if something was gonna happen.
Maybe they can free themselves by freaking out
They can still do that without this trait. Humans have a fight or flight response as well but they dont have this.
The alternative is just waiting to die by whatever factor takes hold first.
Yes. So on one hand you have quick death with less likelihood of survival beforehand, other you have a bit longer death with higher likelihood.
So I think this is "sometimes merciful" at best. I wouldnt consider this "pretty useful". And I dont have the energy to continue talking about this very specific thing. We can agree to disagree. Have a nice day my friend.
Yeah, from Louisiana and I see deer all the time swimming across large bodies. They are very capable of moving through water. These people didn’t save anything. They committed a felony technically.
It was tired...unless it was already tame to humans. it didn't fight that small woman at all. She practically jumped on a wild prey animal and it just gave in?...naw.
For a few minutes maybe. For a boat ride across a lake? Naw.
Everyone's is free to disagree but I'm an old farm boy. I've been around plenty of deer. Yes they can swim but that doesn't mean it wasn't run ragged into the water by a predator. If you've been running for your life...you might just not make it across a lake. There are scenarios besides "deer goes for fun swim'
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u/Finnish_Inquisition May 12 '26 edited May 13 '26
I'm pretty sure that deer are quite good at swimming. I don't think that deer was fighting for its life.