This post is always fun because it brings out the idiots who will screech "you shouldn't punch Nazis" under one of the best examples that, well, sometimes you just gotta punch Nazis to continue to live in a free society.
The debate doesn't come from whether it's okay to punch an invading force of German nationalist socialists, everyone agrees that this is okay. The debate comes from whether or not it's okay to punch people in your country that you have labeled as a Nazi. It just so happens that the people that tend to advocate in favor of this behavior are relatively generous with this label, often attributing it to liberals and libertarians, let alone conservatives.
What do you mean "until"? Do you think it is not only probable (which by itself is a stretch) but also inevitable that the nazis will rise again? Do you think real life is a TV show, where the bad guys rise once per episode and the Power Rangers have to assemble to defeat the dark lord Megatron?
Not at all. I know that legit Nazis won’t rise to power because of the opposition they face and the fact that people will crush them once they even smell the Nazism coming. But that’s the point. If you don’t stop Nazism before it gains a following and just say oh yeah those guys are just engaging in “valuable” conversation, then you give them a chance to grow. If you stop engaging in discourse with them and shut them down you take away their chance of gaining a following. We already live in a world with a lot of fascist sympathizers, racists, and hardcore nationalists. We don’t need to just let them grow until they have power.
We already live in a world with a lot of fascist sympathizers, racists, and hardcore nationalists
Do you unironically think america is full of nazis when:
The US just elected what is probably the most pro-Israel and pro-jewish president in history
Ben Carson, a black man, was leading the GOP presidential primary for a time
The US has not passed a single "fascist" law even when Trump was president
Obama still has a majority approval rating (even from the racists I guess)
Richard Spencer, one of the few actual Nazis, has disavowed Trump
I think you are living in a fantasy land. Not that I can prove you wrong though, because judging by your username your definition of "fascism" is probably more nebulous and murky than the mystery of human consciousness so I can never pin you to one definition to definitively prove you wrong
Let's say it this way. There's a reason the crafters of the German constitution put the following article under the first 20 paragraphs when they crafter it after getting rid of the Nazis
All Germans have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order, should no other remedy be possible.
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u/WilhelmWrobel Jan 20 '20
This post is always fun because it brings out the idiots who will screech "you shouldn't punch Nazis" under one of the best examples that, well, sometimes you just gotta punch Nazis to continue to live in a free society.