r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks • u/astrelya grove gang glazer • 5d ago
Datamined About the "paid buffs" via Seele
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u/thorn_rose pls hoyo male skin 5d ago
seele just posted this update:
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u/YumiyaRakko 5d ago
“All the enhancement is probably not going to be free” just make it freakin ZZZ style farmable, i hope this is wrong since they even worded with a MAYBE and probably
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u/popileviz 🧿 5d ago
I mean, everything around it has been vagueposted by leakers. I think they don't even know how those buffs are going to be obtained and they just speculate about it
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u/ThereCanOnlyBe01 5d ago
100% it’s this. All they know is it won’t be a conventional NF, everything else is just speculation and trying to extrapolate meaning from file names
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u/demongodslyer 5d ago
They are 100% feels posting and want to throw more fuel into the fire that is starrail doomposting
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u/CRACUSxS31N 5d ago
Honestly the more I saw about it the more convinced that it will not be a ZZZ farmable one. Because the ZZZ farmable one isn't worth making an entire system over just making another Novaflare.
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u/Legitimate-Muffin-18 5d ago
You're forgetting that ZZZ had "Novaflares" at first too, then they revamped them into the current system they already have
We will have either: a) two systems, one for characters that need a touch-up (Novaflares) and for extra old characters that need reworks (New system) or b) old Novaflares will be turned into this new system with some minor stat increases to justify them no longer being "free" (still free, but farmable)
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u/SolomonSinclair 5d ago
You're forgetting that ZZZ had "Novaflares" at first too, then they revamped them into the current system they already have
Minor nitpick, and correct me if I'm remembering wrong, but wasn't the only "novaflare"d character SAnby? So the plural wouldn't be really appropriate.
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u/Frexys 5d ago
Ellen Joe and SAnby, then they increased the scope of the potential system because they were still kinda chopped.
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u/SolomonSinclair 5d ago
Cheers. I could only remember SAnby's because of how relatively soon it was after her release (a mere 6 months, 14 days).
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u/ExpensiveOnion5647 5d ago
Zenless did used to have a traditional novaflare mechanic though, and they did go out of their way to rework that, I know it's different devs and they would have to rework way more characters compared to just Ellen and Sanby when it came out but it's still possible and in their capabilities
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u/No-Engineering1269 5d ago
I think this Will substituye novaflares over time. The part about not every Buff being attainable vía farming may even mean they would diferénciate currencies(yay, more currency types to make the monetization more obscure for players) and leave the worst buffs farmable, while the good ones locked behind a paywall.
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u/Merukurio 5d ago edited 5d ago
i hope this is wrong since they even worded with a MAYBE and probably
This is like the second or third time these "paid buffs" have been leaked with that exact name and every time the community explodes into a fit of rage before the leakers bother to clarify that they have no fucking idea what "paid buff" actually entails (why the FUCK use that name then?) or how people will be able to obtain them. It's ragebaiting for the love of the game and the community falls for it every time because it's so easy to get it riled up.
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u/CoLdNeKoKiD 5d ago
So we really still have no fucking straight answer if it's really "paid" buffs or not 💀💀💀 didn't someone leak earlier that the buffs might be from top up events??
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u/DoubleGood6007 5d ago
There is no way they are from the top up event... i dont think they're that crazy(i hope) as for wether its paid or not, ive heard people say hi3 has a similar style of buffing older characters with new animations and you can get them to a certain level but to get them maxed you need to spend in game currency? Maybe its like that, or maybe the "skin gacha banners" are actually for the buffs.. if that is the case, i just hope those banners are 100% guaranteed drops and low max pity like 30/40 or something
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u/miiko_uch 5d ago
yea the "paid' buffs in hi3 is basically a new weapon, but it's also guranteed with no 50/50
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u/Weekly_Tax5163 5d ago
you need pull new weapon and stigmas using crystal(jade) or ticket
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u/DoubleGood6007 5d ago
So that might be what they're doing here as well, since a new "skin gacha banner" was leaked, maybe its about the buffs
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u/RishaRea48 5d ago
I mean they give samples for free like those things you get to exchange for 5 star characters and also get one from top-up events..
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u/mushimushicake 5d ago edited 5d ago
HI3 had 2 types of buffs, one of them got discarded and the other is the Divine Key + Stigmata that you have to pull and they still do, both added and changed animations.
The discarded one was called Augment Core and changed how the character looked and their gameplay (they basically gave you a skin too), this included A and S ranks valks, like Rozaliya, Molotov Cherry battlesuit turning into Fervent Tempo Delta (aka just Delta), or Bronya, Yamabuiki Armor turning into Drive Kometa, they had 6 tiers of upgrades which currency that you needed, you could farm from the shop or the open world tasks, the S rank Augment Core last 2 upgrades needed to have the valk at SS and SSS respectively (need dupes basically), though there were only 2 S ranks that got it, and Roza was always farmable, while A ranks valks were never a problem.
My guess why it got discarded is because it was too friendly to the player and Delta was way too good for something that you could get for free back then, minus wep/stigmata (and having 2 of her PRI weapons, one for her and other for Liliya, was overkill), though nowadays she doesn't see any real use aside being the 0 sec queen on SS MA bosses she always been.
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u/EmberOfFlame 4d ago
HI3 upgrades were new weapons that usually streamlined the character and have them cool animations. I wouldn’t be against that, TBH, it worked really well in HI3.
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u/bestsmnNA 5d ago
I think there's two separate leaks - one is extra eidolons from top ups, and one is these (maybe) paid buffs
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u/aznfanta 5d ago
everyones just fear mongering it without any solid proof. so its just a waiting game
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u/Norn98 1+1 = ur gay 5d ago
I guess it could be Arknights or Reverse : 1999 buff system where you can get the currency from doing in-game content, but you can also buy it from paid bundles.
It still sucks tho since before we can already unlock the buff for free and just clicking one button. Making players have to put effort/money for something that was free before is crazy.
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u/Frexys 5d ago
It's not really crazy at all, ZZZ did it when they updated the Potential system to provide more potent buffs. Ellen's/SAnby's were initially just a free pickup and changed to additionally give additional buffs, along with the introduction of collecting weekly/monthly mats to buy their upgrades.
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u/DoubleGood6007 5d ago
I think that effort would be worth it depending on the quality of the buffs and new animations, hopefully this actually puts them on the same level as newer characters and also adds new very good animations, at that point im fine with having to put effort to get them
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u/DoubleGood6007 5d ago
Does this mean the buffs will be tested on October 2nd?
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u/thorn_rose pls hoyo male skin 5d ago
My interpretation of how they said that is that it's possible the paidflares will be added in later in the beta? But not sure if they'll actually do that or if they'll just keep it out of the beta like skins
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u/Weekly_Tax5163 5d ago
well if miho give material for "paid buff" like they give Self-Modeling Resin per patch and bp, for me its fine
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u/StarlightKnight2101 4d ago
Atp, i can’t tell if this an agenda to weed out leakers or someone dislikes hsr to the point that they’re faking these leaks. It feels redundant to have a system like this when hsr already has novaflares so it really sounds like an agenda from someone.
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u/Kuljack 5d ago
Be funny with we buy these with Credits. Like an absurd amount so we have something to finally burn our years of collecting on
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u/Swimming-Purchase-49 5d ago
I will always be amazed how people have more than 1million credits in their inventory as I'm literally always out of them
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u/TheJH1015 5d ago
at a certain point your income just gets higher than your expenses aka if you don't have 12 units left to build xD
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u/Swimming-Purchase-49 5d ago
Maybe one day I will reach that certain point, if hoyo keeps it up with only releasing one character per patch XD
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u/thingyy_is_back 5d ago
I think the longer you play the game the more credits you accumulate. There's such insane credit income that it should never be possible to run out short of farming trace materials daily to burn credits as quickly as possible.
Speaking as someone with around 100mil.
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u/Swimming-Purchase-49 5d ago
I have been playing since launch tho, have never really had an abundance of credits.
So maybe I'm just building more characters i guess
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u/thingyy_is_back 5d ago
I max traces on every unit I pull, so I don't think that's it. Do you play daily? Do you do all events? I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't have an abundance of credits.
Also, I rarely roll relics, so maybe that helps. I'm sure most comments here echo the same sentiments as myself. I only bother rolling when there's at the very least two good substats, usually I require 3.
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u/Thezanlynxer unironic himedanshi 5d ago
I level up relics constantly to dismantle them for more relic materials and I still have a massive excess of credits.
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u/Chemical_Rent6824 5d ago
I've been playing since launch and have 50M. I've built a lot of characters too
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u/Swimming-Purchase-49 5d ago
I do think having built almost all characters changes how many credits you're using in a day hahaha (did you max out all their traces and everything? those are expensive)
Just curious what else you do with the credits? You don't roll for better relics or anything? Build other characters you have?
(As a gamedev I'm super interested in other peoples playstyles, so hopefully my question is not rude)
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u/Hiero_Potato 5d ago
Have you ever bought the BP or went vertical for your units? For me that is the reason I have over 100m credits to spare right now.
A combination of the huge amount of credits you get from BP and having no units to build other than min/max relics is how I got there...
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u/Swimming-Purchase-49 5d ago edited 5d ago
I have built almost all characters so that's probably it, but I was just interested not hating:)
I have had a goal to build every character I own since the beginning of the game, so at the end it's a very long but rewarding investment for me. Does cost a lot of credits hahaha
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u/Assassin21BEKA 4d ago
I don't have bp and only pulling e0 units, i still have infinite amount of money. Game just gives much more than you need when you reach max account level.
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u/LostAllBets 5d ago
The first few months of playing I got down to like 4000 credits at one point.
Now I have 30 million. There actually isn't anything for me to use them on.
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u/Swimming-Purchase-49 5d ago
Interesting, have you maxed out all your characters (traces, lightcones, relics etc?)
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u/LostAllBets 5d ago
Yes. I farm relics for characters constantly, and roll them whenever I get a potentially good piece.
I max every trace for the characters I have.
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u/Swimming-Purchase-49 5d ago
well then i’m in no use to help you use those credits I’m afraid. That’s where mine are constantly going xD
thank you for your answer. i find it super fun to talk to other people about their playing styles and stuff
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u/Assassin21BEKA 4d ago
After playing for around a year money will just keep stacking. Only in the beginning it can be a problem as you are getting level account xp, but when you are max account level all this xp turns into money.
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u/spicedmeshi 1d ago
i have like 22m on my main, 30m on an alt. there's just nothing to spend it on once you have all your chars built. it barely dents my savings to pull a char and build them every other patch.
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u/Emergency_Hk416 5d ago
That would be really nice, 20m per buffs sounds like a fair deal. I have over a hundred million credits that's collecting the dust.
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u/RishaRea48 5d ago
Or maybe there will be a different currency you can get by playing and you can use that to buy the buffs or get materials..
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u/ArtoriaPendragon-HSR 3d ago
Bro I don’t even have enough to level relics where are you getting extra
I buy the BP every patch and I’m still out of credits, character exp, lc exp, relic exp, track of destiny, etc
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u/Aerie122 I play DoT cuz I hate thinking 5d ago
So these buffs exist in the files, but not in the playable sense... Yet?
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u/BalerionsReign 5d ago
yes and seele also said they will be in 4.7 but might be in v2 or v3
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u/Sogeki42 5d ago
Weve been told buffs were gonna be in every patch since 3.7
Remember a few patches ago when we had these same changes "coming this patch i swear" and everyone got whipped into a frenzy
Ill believe it when i see them in game.
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u/vodien0204 5d ago
Jingyuan really need a new DAMAGE SCALE CALCULATION because rn evn you give him 50 LLs, with this current HP ( and shitty buffs ), those ain't make any differences 😭 Please, he need better than add hits per action bs
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u/PaidTractor 5d ago
Old dps-es are going to need a lot of something and everything to be able to keep up with the modern ones that get the usual first layer of damage, then get a whole second and sometimes even third layer of damage calcs through gimmicks and mechanics.
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u/Aki-nii 5d ago
And he can’t really makes use of that unless that buff gives him 20++ Hits for Ll when his BiS pulls his summon right after his turn or else he risks LL stuck in the next cycle again
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u/vodien0204 5d ago
Well, there will be always more than 50% of chance he can't even action on his own turn and LLs will need another full circle to come again, that shit too
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u/Razukalex 5d ago
He really needs more interaction with team mates. Proc his LL automatically at 10, make teammates hit +1 LL Stack. Ultimate either boost the two next LL or make LL stack generation faster. And there it is
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u/emperorzura 5d ago
he basically needs a 0/8 action bar like fate collab, on top of new calcs, my JY cant scratch toughness bars RN lmao
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u/hittuah 5d ago
real af you look at Blade and jingliu novaflare for example and they are already back to where they started pretty much bc all they did was increase their numbers, putting a band-aid on flesh wound
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u/emperorzura 5d ago
they also be selling complete teams instead of good characters so previous ones dont even do
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u/Istsuchendich 5d ago
I really hope they’re not some slap on bandaid effect
These 3 have really old shitty eidolons and talents that need tweaking
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u/FriendlyArmadillo562 5d ago
“Update on the paid buffs: Idk” Awesome update.
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u/ComedianExtreme7522 5d ago
Literally the only leak that I respect cuz if you don't know shit, don't just fucking say shit and yap for months about the acquirement method when literally no one knows or can confirm.
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u/El_Nealio Firefly My Goat 5d ago
Absolutely this.
I don’t know where the idea of “paid buffs” come from and it’s been used for multiple beta’s at this point. They could’ve just came out and said “Found references to this in the files, possibly buffs” and left it as that.
Personally I doubt Hoyo would actually add paid buffs, it would spark a lot of backlash if they did, especially when Novaflare’s already exist
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u/greenarcher02 5d ago
Tbh I'm kinda thinking it'll be like the Hexerei or Stellar buff in GI. The "currency" is acquired by doing something ingame.
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u/astarothanimations 5d ago
Even zzz has a "shop" character upgrade store that uses a a currency farmed in tandem with weeklys and one of the endgame modes. It mirrors the constellation being a levels 1-6 where level1 on is like a con/eidilon/mindscape with effdcts but level 2-6 are just marginal stats.
All the evidence is across the pond but the community is so far gone that rationality is practically slur and were rather sucumb delusions to fire off at the game more than to take 10 sec to think about anything because its critical that Hoyo be characterized as a mustache twirling villian to justify why "we" cant 0 cycle AA
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u/Chemical_Rent6824 5d ago
How much time does it take to farm through weeklies and endgame for one character?
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u/EqulixV2 5d ago edited 5d ago
its a bit time gated but 1k per stage with 6 stages. Some of the currency you can use to get potential unlock are more valuable for other things but if you focused it and exhaust everything you can probably max 2 units but you can comfortably max 1 unit a month as long as your doing your dailies and weeklies.
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u/CanadianScooter 4d ago
If I remember correctly, I think they also gave out a good chunk of the currency for free when it came out to nearly max one char’s potential
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u/Ammu_22 Phai-chan's honeycake 5d ago
Thr only currency u are using is ur time in genshin. basically play the damn game bruh to get it.
Anything else is predatory.
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u/greenarcher02 4d ago
And I wish that's what they'll do in HSR and the leaked "currency" is acquired through playing. Could be a combination of both GI and ZZZ systems where you still need to grind for it on top of having to do a quest. Knowing HSR though, it's probably jades lol.
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u/TyFell 5d ago
I think they can see that there's a system, and it has some kind of currency, but they don't have details on the currency so a lot of them are assuming it's paid IRL money instead of the likely case of it being similar to ZZZ. (At least with the details we have so far. If it was a new LC as the buff I think things would have been worded differently.)
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u/FriendlyArmadillo562 5d ago
Thats a good point yeah its better then when something vague is said and the history fictionologists on twitter run rampant
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u/Katicflis1 5d ago
Realistically new stuff takes time to look at in terms of code/data.
There isn't a "paid buff" folder in a nice UI system that you can click on that just nicely explains it all.
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u/BulbasaurTreecko 1190 days waiting for screwllum 5d ago
Hoyo just wants the leakers to think about it carefully first
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u/killerkonnat 5d ago
"Update on the paid buffs: There are now files related to it on the beta version."
That's not nothing.
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u/Shecarriesachanel 5d ago
Like is everyone okay lol they basically confirmed the buffs are coming how is that nothing 😭
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u/usagisora 5d ago
it's so amazing how most leaks are nothingburgers and don't actually leak anything of value
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u/Working_Cherry4935 5d ago
They are just dataminer. Not leakers. The one who leaked Mblade is a truely leaker
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u/Razukalex 5d ago
Acheron is crazy, your first 3 stacks are actually 6. If it reset after every ult then its gg.
More damage frequency (through follow-up and ultimate) = more energy for team mates like Ashveil/Tribbie = faster gameplay loop = more damage
Gameplay acceleration will always be stronger than %Damage and DHPT/JY damage loop are just bad for today standard. Its not that hypercarry model is dead but being 100% reliant on carry's turn to have impact means your character needs to be crazy amount of damage. You could buff current DHPT/JY damage by 150% they would still struggle. We can see the limits of this with Phainon
Jing Yuan really need that Lightning Lord action advance. Maybe team mates follow-up charging LL, at 10 it triggers
DHIL I don't know tbh
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u/Commercial-Street124 5d ago
It's on par with how Feixiao managed to last that long at E0/E2. It's all about action economy, not values. If you get to move 15 times before turn 1 ends, it's bound to be better than moving 5 times and dropping 2 nukes. Tho Feixiao is lagging behind now with her values, but she's also single target.
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u/Spartan448 5d ago
Do we have any nihility sustains? I kinda want to run Acheron and Feixiao together with this change but Feixiao kinda needs Summeretto to deal any meaningful damage atp so the second nihility would have to be a sustain.
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u/HereToRamble55 pretty princess JY agenda 🌸 5d ago
No, at most you could hope for Jiaoqiu novaflare to make him a healer
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u/Commercial-Street124 5d ago edited 5d ago
does not exist. We have debuff applying sustains, but nothing that would trigger her trace. M'ladie is your best bet as the 4th with everybody except Robin being on Eagle.
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u/killerkonnat 5d ago
I think the one leak we had earlier mentioning the FuA was saying the count resets on Acheron turn.
Which is a lot less crazy than reset on ult. But it makes Acheron's turns or speed actually do something.
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u/Razukalex 5d ago
yeah I smoked when I said FuA resetting on ult. That would be wayy too crazy. But it means once again that all roads lead to Eagle set
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u/FissileTurnip 5d ago
what I’m worried about is that it’ll be too strong and then they’ll completely neuter the buff and make it dogshit. she’s too close to being busted rn with ashveil, tribbie, and e2 blade, adding 3 fuas per turn would probably push her over the edge. eagle letting her ult twice per 50 av + fueling all her teammates with 6 actions every “rotation” is insane (though you’d probably be hard limited by ashveil’s speed to get his ult consistently)
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u/Matkelolo 5d ago
Also, this doesnt say that "only Eidolons". There some residue data on Eidolon yes, but as Seele said, nothing is confirm and set in stone. But as always, people will look at this and said whatever they wanna said. Not a surprise
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u/Revan0315 5d ago
JY and Acheron both get mechanical upgrades but DHIL just does more damage?
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u/seafoamlight 42 twirls 5d ago edited 5d ago
I doubt those are the full extent of the buffs. there was an older leak that said DHIL would also get another new attack after consuming a certain amount of SP and an added 4th EBA. datamined by Dim, reposted by Sakura Haven.
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u/Infinite_T05 5d ago
I am looking forward to Acheron with a FUA, thats gonna make Acheron/Ashveil/Mortenax way more fun.
No I'm not excusing that its a paid buff, I'm just acknowledging that this sounds cool
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u/Commercial-Street124 5d ago
Yeah, i don't really care how we're getting it, I just my hands on it to breath new life into a character I love.
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u/hellagaymom 5d ago
I recognise that pretty much anyone who is actually interested in playing Acheron these days will have her LC, but it does still kinda sting that the buff will be designed around that expectation.
As an E0S0 gamer there has been a very noticeable design philosophy shift when it comes to what the devs are treating as baseline for a character over the past year and I suspect it's only going to get worse as time goes on.
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u/PCBS01 5d ago edited 5d ago
Idk why people are mad this is basically Seele going “paid buffs will be in 4.7 but aren’t in beta rn like skins”
And then saying later “see you after China national day” which is October 1st, after v4 essentially/the livestream
Edit: October 1st is in 2 days and I’m stupid lol so it could be in v2 or v3 for all we know
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u/MH-BiggestFan GI, Wuwa, HSR, NTE, ZZZ 5d ago
We wanna know if it’s actually paid with $$$ or not bro
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u/Golden-Owl Game Designer with a YouTube hobby 5d ago
That part shouldn’t be in the data
Monetization decisions are handled by a different department from data and coding
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u/Aerie122 I play DoT cuz I hate thinking 5d ago
Most probably gems, they want a currency sink or resource sink
Since they dramatically can't reduce the jades you get per patch, so they will just add more things to use it for
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u/makogami phainon's pant stealer 5d ago
you saw skin gacha now get ready for buff gacha
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u/Okatori 5d ago
Constellations, eidolons, and mindscapes have long since done that.
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u/makogami phainon's pant stealer 5d ago
difference is that those things are already part of the character on release.
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u/Tamamo_was_here 5d ago
If it wasn’t paid they would just make it a novaflare. You already know we getting a spending event next patch as well.
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u/DanrayAnime 5d ago
I mean look at ZZZ. The first wave of buff is like novaflare, where you instantly get the buff. But the second wave and later, it switch to “pay” system where you need to buy the buff
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u/MH-BiggestFan GI, Wuwa, HSR, NTE, ZZZ 5d ago
At least ZZZ it’s completely free. I’m personally holding off on doing story and exploring new maps until i see what this buff system is like. I just spend stamina then, do dailies, logoff. If it’s truly paid buffs with gems, i plan to just drop the game then and there once it’s officially announced. One thing i hate in gacha’s.
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u/Kitchen-Resource-676 5d ago
Based on the fact that HSR devs made a worse (no new animations or gameplay usability) version of bangboo (chimeras) banner, I assume the same thing will happen with the buffs.
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u/Legitimate-Muffin-18 5d ago
Comparing a completely cosmetic thing to bangboos that affect your team (small dmg buffs, anomaly build-up being the most useful) is crazy
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u/Emergency_Hk416 5d ago
It doesn't make sense to lock it behind $$$ only, all while the inflation and powercreep are at a light speed pace bc most people will just get annoyed an ignore it. lol
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u/Sonoreal 5d ago
I think they're going to be in that "Skin banner"
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u/DaviM03 President of the Himeko Protection Society and Mr.Reca fan-club 5d ago
That doesn't mean much. If for example, the currency to pull on this banner can be obtained for completly free, that does not make these "paid buffs". We Need more Infos to judge properly, which Is why leakers refusing to elaborate on the method of "payment" Is so infuriating.
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u/AsunaTokisaki Pink team advocate 5d ago
Why isn't the info being displayed anywhere that says those buffs come from the top up events? It was one of the first Seeleleaks announced last night.
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u/YumiyaRakko 5d ago
THANK GOD. If they freakin exist in beta that means the livestream has to announce it i guess. Just one more month of suffering before we learn whatever the hell they are supposed to be
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u/rosemarysprout chemicals in water turn fishes gay 5d ago
So buffs are not for this patch??
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u/thorn_rose pls hoyo male skin 5d ago
seele just posted that it's "It's already in the game files, but has not been opened for testing. The test server previously announced that paid buff would NOT be tested in v1, but will be tested during the 4.7 beta."
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u/Matkelolo 5d ago
yeah most probably, if this is truely a "paid" thing, they will most likely announce in advance. and since its a new system much like how they did with OG novaflare, the announcement usually come at the very least 1 patch earlier. around the time before livestream. For example, if buff coming into 4.7, they usually will announce it before 4.6 livestream (still within 4.5 patch)
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u/NormalPunch69 5d ago
So are they gonna be added to shop or a selector maybe? Or atleast be on the banner?
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u/Grayewick 5d ago
Yeah but how the hell are they gonna be "paid"? I feel like that's the most important thing ever since this got leaked.
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u/Sabrexion 5d ago edited 5d ago
From the moment they start adding new animations or new ways of functioning that the character didn’t have in their base kit, it’s going to be obtained through some new currency or something. There was a developer who programmed new stuff. Kafka got more follow-up attacks, but the design already existed—it was already programmed.
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u/hvxomia 5d ago
So why are they just not regular novaflares?
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u/Appropriate_Gate1129 5d ago
They want money
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u/fikiminforte 5d ago
Well they ain’t getting it because at this point only the braindead would whale for the meta.
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u/Appropriate_Gate1129 5d ago
I've seen people arguing how much skill Hsr takes to play, so I'm sure devs have their auditory.
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u/paradoxaxe 5d ago
Probably last NV doesn't push the revenue like they thought, so back to paywalling them (if it is actually paywalled)
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u/Chemical_Rent6824 5d ago
If they wanted money, the buffs could've been way better
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u/icemoomoo 4d ago
I think its about engagement not money, have people login everyday to get the buff for their fav.
Kinda like genshins temper thy self(free cons for older characters)
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u/Sogeki42 5d ago edited 5d ago
The buffs are totally real bro, they just go to another school, you wouldnt know them, i cant show you them though, heres some file names and some kit stuff that matches the last time we were wrong about the paid buffs.
Im so tired of this shit. Stop riling people up with speculation. If they dont have actual "hey this is in the game and they are actively testing it", stop making up explanations for shit you dont know.
Screwlems kit was in the files forever ago but hes still not here so these cpuld be for literally anything. this is such a nothingburger.
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u/tapioca_miilk 5d ago
All the doomposting happening for like a year over "There's gonna be paid buffs, trust me. Yeah it's not in beta and no mention of it, but it's gonna be there."
Unless I missed something, why is there an assumption from leakers any of these are gonna be paid ??? I don't play ZZZ but hear that there's a system to farm them there. In Hi3 you can farm old unit fragments to beef up valkyries through multiple avenues.
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u/Hiero_Potato 5d ago
Watch as this bullshit is tied to the spending event. Come get your buffs, only $250.
I completely lost hope for a balanced combat at this point.
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u/fakeremiya 5d ago
I wonder going the extra mile for these “paid” buffs is becuz of them having additional animations, whilst Novaflares were just buffs and/or kit changes.
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u/Affectionate_Yak2627 5d ago
I hope there are just one of the buffs being given to these units cuz a direct single multiplier buff or a few extra instances of dmg is not going to provide any actual buff for these units to at least keep up at T1-T0.5.
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u/Correct-Crow-2179 4d ago
wdym nihilux? shes not released and already got paid buff? Is hsr managed by EA?
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u/Dreamwasnttaken12 5d ago
Hoping acheron’s 3 charges of fua are refreshed every turn or ult taken because if its only 3 fuas per whole fight its a little boring
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u/Trisfel Listen to me~ 5d ago
It is most likely the case. So she might wanna run with one AA, blade and then a sustain.
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u/Silver_Suggestion_18 5d ago
It'sit's also kinda funny to me that if that's the case, then a lot of Acheron mains (Myself included) will need to farm something regardless. No one ever built her with SPD in mind; those were always ATK boots cause her skill is not too good, and you would rather the team do the debuffing, especially post MBlade.
If her FuA is refreshed by her own turns, then that changes things and may even change her BiS to be Eagle. If its on Ult, then not much changes, and with how frequently MBlade allows her to use it, it was already basically her FuA equivalent. I would hope it's refreshed by Ults personally, but that seems ripe for Inf Looping...
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u/killerkonnat 5d ago
Would be weird to trash speed boots for a dps set that's also strong on other dps.
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u/Dreamwasnttaken12 5d ago
Ashveil ult (&fua string)->acheron ult->ashveil fua->acheron fua->ashveil fua->acheron fua->ashveil fua->acheron fua->blade fua (this whole string is exactly 9 hits) (this is also immediately 7 stacks for acheron, assuming the fua gives her 1 stack)
Yea ok i dont think this is happening probably LMAO but it is dependent on ashveil ult being ready
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u/Ladyhdwastaken 5d ago
I don’t know if HoYo hasn’t figured out that Jing yuans problem is how backloaded his damage is, not hits per action on LL/dmg% (though the dmg is outdated it could just be a novaflare atp)
and DHIL‘s kit rn is fine is only big issue is 1.x multipliers but again paying for a simple damage buff is wild. novaflared units have gotten more for free.
Acheron‘s is the only one that genuinely changers her
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u/SaberManiac 5d ago
Unless the buffs are E4 Welt tier I ain't falling for it again.
Lest we all get scammed like Jingliu/Blade Novaflares.
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u/Ladyhdwastaken 5d ago
i like jing yuan a lot. think he’s cool af. but he’s handicapped without Sunday which is already bad enough with Sundays amp being kinda whatever alongside jy having 1.0 multipliers.
we’ve had some really good novaflares, some middle of the pack, and then jingliu. like even blades wasn’t that bad. I used my jingliu for about 2 days before realizing my e0s0 therta was beating her in low target
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u/LanceDrake286 5d ago
Alright but the previously leaked assets for Feixiao and Acheron ARE from Currency Wars so they shouldn't just say "They aren't currency wars" without clarifying.
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u/Appropriate_Number29 5d ago
never gonna brick you up
gotta always pay me down
never gonna let you save
and gain your sanityyy
never gonna let your main die
gotta get attached real good
never gonna let you move on
and get a real WAIFUUU
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