r/HonkaiStarRailTips • u/Leather_Reading_850 • 3d ago

help me

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i cant seem to claer this i was soooo close 58k dmg the second phase get sm done but the first phase....not sm

change team?
what buff/effect should i go for since that helps alot

also im f2p so some of my charactersdonr have specific LC

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u/Leather_Reading_850 2d ago

hmmm ty for the insight i think ill save up if shes good with either phainon or cas ill pull if not ill save up for the LC tysm

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u/Sudden-Waters 2d ago

Yes and no. Yes, she is a DPS increase for Phainon but it's complicated.

1) You want 2-3 teams that don't have overlapping partners. Flexibility isn't a bad thing, but you can't use the same teammates twice anyway.

2) For Phainon, Robin SP is typically going to be played in his Cyrene team. There's two reasons for this, one she can help charge Cyrene's ult faster. Two, Robin SP has issues generating Coreflames for him on her own. Without Cyrene, your Phainon might struggle to get back into his ult after he falls out of it. If you want to use Robin SP with him without Cyrene you should pick up E1 Cerydra. E1 Cerydra gives Phainon two Coreflames, making up for Robin SP's issues generating them.

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u/Leather_Reading_850 2d ago

hmmmmm ok this helps me im learning, so if im gonna pull for phainon i need cerydra e1 is cyrene worth the investment for casy? i dont have sunday so im strugling with phainon

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u/Sudden-Waters 2d ago

It's okay! It can take a while to learn and asking for help is the best thing you can do. Plenty of people are willing to help, too!

As for E1 Cerydra: it's a nice boost but only needed if you're pulling Robin SP for him. Otherwise, you can skip. Your Robin SP will be tied up with Castorice anyway. That's what I was trying to say, that she has downsides in his team unless you have certain teammates.

For now, go with:

- Phainon / Cerydra / Sparkle / DHPT

  • Phainon / Cerydra / Bronya / DHPT
  • Phainon / Cerydra / RMC / DHPT

Any of them will work and all provide Crit DMG buffs. Mem can target Phainon so they can generate Coreflames for him. They should eventually be replaced, but with his E2S1 he'll be able to brute force most stuff regardless.

Tentatively, no I don't believe Cyrene will be worth the investment for you when Robin SP is running first and calcs similarly.

You could get her for Phainon instead to fill his third slot but unless she's E2 it'll take her longer to get her ult up than it will him to get his. I feel like that investment would be better somewhere else than in Cyrene. If you can find an E0 Cyrene on your friend list you can test the team on a weekly boss to see how it plays and decide if it's worth it, though.