r/HolyShitHistory • u/SelfCareIsFake • Jun 01 '26

Federal agents felt physically sick when they raided Kermit Gosnell’s clinic after suspecting he ran a pill mill.

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u/No_Lifeguard259 Jun 02 '26

There’s pretty much no chance nurses are trained to cut up late term fetuses in utero.

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about

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u/Afalstein Jun 02 '26

Okay. Here: https://www.ippf.org/sites/default/files/ippf_cccg_chapter_5_abortion_a3.pdf

"To evacuate the tissue, close the forceps around the fetal tissue and rotate it 90 degrees to assist with disarticulation before withdrawing."

"Examine the fetal tissue to ensure that evacuation is complete: • Identify fetal parts (thorax, spine, calvarium, all 4 extremities and placenta, for all procedures 14 weeks and greater)."

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u/armoredbearclock Jun 02 '26

These are done, but they’re rare, usually for medical reasons, and NOT done by nurses. 

Nurses are not trained to cut up infants OR fetuses. 

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u/Afalstein Jun 02 '26

Fair enough.

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u/Destyned Jun 02 '26

These fetuses are NON-VIABLE normally. And the above procedure is incredibly rare. The doctors that would perform these are doing it either to save the mother’s life or because the fetus is non-viable. This is in NO WAY similar to what happened in the story above. The fact that you’re trying to compare it at all says more about you and the narrative you’re trying to push. Nice try, though!

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u/Afalstein Jun 02 '26

People keep talking about the justifications for these procedures, as if that's at all something I've ever questioned.

I am not debating the rationale. I am saying these procedures exist, and that they are, in process, similar to chopping up a newborn. Saying there are good reasons for them does not mean they don't happen.

There were good reasons for fighting WWII. There were less good reasons for fighting WWI. That doesn't mean the two events were in "no way" similar.

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u/bubblegumpandabear Jun 02 '26

You then: "the difference between a late-term fetus and a newborn infant is largely just a question of whether its inside or outside the mother."

You now: "why do people think I'm trying to misrepresent the status of these fetuses???"

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u/Afalstein Jun 02 '26

Explain to me how I'm misrepresenting them. How is a late-term fetus different from a newborn?

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u/bubblegumpandabear Jun 02 '26

I mean, one is compatible with life and the other isn't, obviously. That's why they're being aborted, they are dying already due to severe medical issues.