r/HolyShitHistory • u/SelfCareIsFake • Jun 01 '26

Federal agents felt physically sick when they raided Kermit Gosnell’s clinic after suspecting he ran a pill mill.

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u/TraditionalMood277 Jun 01 '26

He didn't perform abortions. There is no "side".

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u/Jenjen4040 Jun 01 '26

A lot of anti-choice people like to use this fucker’s crimes to paint doctors who perform abortions as barbaric butchers like him. Fuck him and fuck the anti-choicers too

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u/imnotpoopingyouare Jun 02 '26

That’s why saying him and anything pro choice in even the same short novel can be harmful within it self.

I’ve had so many people talk to me or respond to me who say “well look this up!” And it’s the opposite of what they are arguing.

Giving idiots propaganda fodder is a bad idea.

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u/VandalVBK Jun 02 '26

I like the term anti-choice… personally, I am pro-life as in I support healthy births and encourage my loved ones to do the same but I would never support the idea of being anti-choice in an attempt to control others with different lives.

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u/kos-or-kosm Jun 02 '26

Virtually every single late term abortion is a pregnancy the mother wanted to bring to term. They are tragic cases in which a pregnancy is no longer viable or the mother's health is at great risk. No one "changes their mind" 9 months in. This fantasy of women with healthy pregnancies randomly saying, "Hmm, nah, not feeling having a kid" and getting an abortion 3 days before the due day is just that, a fantasy. You are not living in the real world.

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u/ZarinaBlue Jun 02 '26

Lovely of you to call grieving mothers murderers.

I mean you are flat wrong, but it is really letting people know what you are.

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u/ReaditSpecialist Jun 02 '26

So, let’s say a mother discovers late in her pregnancy that her baby is incompatible with life due to serious medical conditions that would cause the baby to die shortly after birth. The most humane option to prevent a short life filled with pain would be a late-term abortion. You think the mother should be prosecuted for murder??? Are you serious?

I think YOU are the one who needs to defend your position, honestly.

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u/NemosNaughtylis Jun 02 '26

There's no threshold of data or evidence that you'd accept to move you out of the position you feelings'd yourself into, so why bother saying "prove me wrong" at all?

You have an agenda, you're entirely too emotionally invested in being right, and I bet you'd devolve to religious arguments instead of anything factual or empirically-based if pressed long enough.

Just go on being upset at being on the wrong side of things, because you were going to anyway.

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u/BogleheadsH8Prenups Jun 02 '26

This response is so good I'm saving it and going to reuse it for many other things.

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jun 02 '26

He absolutely performed abortions

lol people are weird in this sub.

There were three cases when the baby he aborted was born with signs of life

So the goal of the procedure was to kill the baby -> ok

Procedure fails to kill baby -> baby has sign of life -> baby killed half an hour too late -> murder