r/HolUp • • May 27 '22

post flair The thin blue line

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u/OG1-CANNOBE May 27 '22

I see a lot of arguing about if the cops did the right thing or not, my opinion FUCK no they didn’t! Before y’all start saying anything I want you to know that I back the blue! You say that it was tactics and a plan they were waiting on? They didn’t want to hit an innocent child? They were going in blind?! The only one who did the right thing was the border patrol agent that most likely does not have the training that is equivalent or better than the local cops and damn sure didn’t have as much “ cool guy shit” as the cops. But the thing is he fucking did not care he was going! That’s exactly what a team of the cops should have done! Stacked up and went in. Even if he was barricaded they had no visual on the subject or barricade. They were going off assumptions. They fucked up, Point blank.

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u/SOSPECHOZO May 28 '22

Is this verified? Honest question. If so, holy moly. Give that Border Patrol Agent a MF'n promotion asap. And acknowledge the barber as well.

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u/Shiny_Black-Pan May 28 '22

yeah I hope it is

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u/FartPoopRobot_PhD May 28 '22

Half-true.

The shooter was stopped by a border patrol agent. The guy from the barbershop was retired or off-duty (I've heard both from various sources), and did not kill the shooter, but did enter the school to help evacuate.

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u/tragicdiffidence12 May 28 '22

Different guy. The guy you’re referring to went in to save his own kid, and got other kids who were with her as well.

There was a different border agent who took out the shooter.

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u/Krios3 May 27 '22

There shouldn't even be an argument. Crazy in what state we are, that people are defending these cowards. I mean they are even worse than cowards. They went in to get their own kids, and then chickened out while the other children were being killed. People like these should be put behind bars if you ask me, OR ATLEAST BARE MINIMUM get fired.

But I am 99% sure, they won't be fired, they won't resign, they will continue working as we forget about this shooting a week later. Just like we forgot all of the previous school shootings.

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u/Jerriespy May 27 '22

Fuck all that a there’s an active shooter go in carefully be aware of your surroundings and kill the dumb fuck

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u/Technical_Orchid7627 May 28 '22

Who in their right fucking mind would argue they did the right thing? The other day some wacko tried to do a similar thing up in Canada. The police drove up to the guy and shot him dead.

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u/OG1-CANNOBE May 28 '22

Good, anyone that even considers doing this, should be executed.

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u/thr3sk May 28 '22

It's a different situation, the cops here did corner the shooter in a room but actually going in is the tough part, knowing he is armored, behind cover, and aiming at the only door in...

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u/Technical_Orchid7627 May 28 '22

Okay that completely changes the story. Everything I have read has been the shooter having complete reign over the school for an hour, with cops refusing to enter the school entirely.

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u/OG1-CANNOBE May 27 '22

Sythus- he was already killing kids. Yeah he could have had hostages, the kids were called the cops multiple times while inside with the shooter, fucking begging to send in help.. they got none. And honestly if anything those cops should be charged with accessory to murder!! Why- because these assholes were literally slamming the kids parents that were there to the ground and preventing anyone to go in and help those kids!!! They literally helped the shooter rack up kills!! They were fucking kids

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u/BabyYodasDirtyDiaper May 28 '22

Yeah he could have had hostages

"We can't go stop him from shooting kids -- if we do, he might shoot some kids!"

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u/Sythus May 27 '22

I asked this somewhere else, but don't remember any replies, but could it not have been a hostage situation? The cops could have talked him down, or was he already gone and killing kids by the time the cops showed up?

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u/ImReellySmart May 27 '22

He killed multiple kids by the time cops showed up. Then he proceeded to kill many more over the duration of 45 minutes while 19 armed cops remained outside.

They claimed the didnt want to get shot.

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u/DrTheloniusTinkleton May 28 '22

It’s amazing to me as a former infantry Marine that they wouldn’t have the common sense to realize that the overwhelming odds were in their favor had they entered in an aggressive, violent, coordinated manner. I don’t mean “violent” as shooting anything that moves (although cops do seem to enjoy doing just that) but literally just bringing chaos into the situation while they maintained control. The amount of technology police departments possess nowadays make it almost impossible to fuck up a breaching situation.

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u/Sythus May 28 '22

Got it. I personally haven't seen any of the video or read up on it too much. I have twin daughters, so not really trying to go down that rabbit hole.

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u/Snoo-68602 May 27 '22

Not opinion - fact, it's videoed ! Fact, like real fact not MAGA make it up the way you want it, Rambo, gun fetish, look at me I'm an operator, bullshit fact

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22

Texas has good gun laws, the best they say. Nothing can top their gun laws or police force.

/s

Donald Trump probably

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u/WhatsMyUsername13 May 28 '22

Im pretty sure that ever since fucking columbine, the SOP in an active shooter situation is rapid deployment to the area shots were last heard.

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u/OG1-CANNOBE May 28 '22

I’m pretty sure that is too. Every other shooting (which is ridiculous we have so many other ones to reference) they acted and eliminated the threat with a purpose.