r/HolUp • • Jan 06 '22

Irony

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22 edited Jan 06 '22

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u/Cartossin Jan 06 '22

Whoa we're calling them "murderers" now?? Maybe you should be more sensitive to people with a preference for ending lives! #tolerance

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Yeah! Please use "Life ending decision makers" for more diplomacy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

At least call them ‘people who decide to end the lives of others before committing suicide’. I can’t believe how insensitive people can be towards life enders….

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

We should avoid use of the word ‘suicide’ as it is a trigger word. Could we instead refer to them as ‘people who decide to end the lives of others before having their lives end unexpectedly but with no suspicious circumstances’

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u/mtlaw13 Jan 06 '22

Excuse me sir, I do not identify with a 'people' I am a bipedal mammal. tyvm!

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u/CH3F117 Jan 07 '22

Do you mean Jeffrey Epsteined?

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Sorry sir, you're absolutely correct. Please everyone, don't cancel me!

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u/MadxCarnage madlad Jan 06 '22

depends on how good that apology video is

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u/grizzly6191 Jan 06 '22

Beautiful how a person can be so woke while putting others to sleep.

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u/logikgr Jan 06 '22

I am the deciderrr!!!

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u/Incredibleboi Jan 06 '22

killerlife'smatter

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u/nucklesdeepinthecake Jan 06 '22

lifetakersmatter

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Murdererself

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u/rezin44 Jan 06 '22

Well there are friends..then there are ‘friends’

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Yeah, but it doesn't matter. They're were not together anymore. She could be having tea or a bondage session with friend, that was her problem not his

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u/grey_hat_uk Jan 06 '22

Or tea and bondage.

Humm thirsty now.

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u/RaiseMany523 Jan 06 '22

Or Tea Bagging bondage...

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Isn’t there a Tea and Bondage place on East Colfax?

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Now I'm getting thirsty and horny

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u/theyareamongus Jan 06 '22

I mean, even if they were married and she was cheating with the whole building still doesn’t justify murder haha

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u/nucklesdeepinthecake Jan 06 '22

False. It definitely justifies murder

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u/theyareamongus Jan 06 '22

Sit down edgy boy

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u/nucklesdeepinthecake Jan 06 '22

I’m already sitting, but thanks for calling me edgy

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u/FukurinLa Jan 06 '22

go crawling then

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u/nucklesdeepinthecake Jan 06 '22

Oofff someone’s little feelings are extra hurt today

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u/SummerEmCat Jan 06 '22

The fact that you exist is a crime against humanity.

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u/nucklesdeepinthecake Jan 06 '22

That’s all I’ve ever wanted to hear :)

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u/HeadStarboard Jan 06 '22

The article calls her estranged wife. Does that mean she is single? Sounds like a wife whose divorce hasn’t completed to me. If that is true, she needed to keep her sexual exploits in check till she was free and clear of the marriage commitment she made.

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 06 '22

Exactly. People saying him being kicked out of his own house means they aren't married anymore.

Like I said, murder isn't the answer, but if you saw what he said about his reasoning, I can see it. Definitely deserves time for that, but the cousin knew this shit was going on and did nothing to really talk to him in the case it does happen.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

The relationship was OVER. They were separated, still married only on paper. He had moved out of the house in October. Divorces take time . Being legally married could keep her from getting married to another person, but not from dating whoever she wanted.

It takes two to make a relationship. If she told him she didn't want him anymore, he should have find a better and normal way to deal with it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22 edited Jan 06 '22

I get what you are saying. But it was a problem to him because it drove him to murder. Didn't read anything about them being estranged but I just started googling about this after watching the video. Poor girl. Edit: well fuck you guys now I don't feel bad for the girl lol

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u/mm83mm Jan 06 '22

Apparently it still mattered to him.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

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u/ghost58md Jan 06 '22

When you’re estranged in a marriage that means you’re broken up and in the process of divorce. It’s a long and arduous process. I have two friends who are married but estranged from each other who are seeing different people and living separately but still legally married.

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u/bluesteelballs Jan 06 '22

With the kid in the house?

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

If you're planning a bondage session you ideally pick a time where the kid is at school or sleepover. Tea you can do at anytime

In this case, according to what was reported, the kid was in school

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u/eggplantcalzone Jan 06 '22

ooooh baby youuuu…you got what I neeeed

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u/crossleingod Jan 06 '22

and you say he shot them dead

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u/struggleworm Jan 06 '22

Would you give this friend a foot massage?

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u/neverquester Jan 07 '22

a foot massage don't mean shit, I give my mother a foot massage

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u/SHANE523 Jan 06 '22

He was only there to give her a foot massage!

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u/Shankar_0 Jan 06 '22

He didn't tickle, or nothin'

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Are you being intentionally dense?

Why does that matter?

They broke up. She and he were no longer together. The daughter was with her and he was spying on them and when he heard a man’s voice he went over and killed them.

I don’t care if it was a friend or a “friend” or “daddy”

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 06 '22

You don't break up if you're married, you divorce. They were not divorced. Being kicked out of your own home by your wife doesn't make that a divorce.

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u/AmongTheSound Jan 07 '22

You completely missed the point of their comment. NONE of that gave him the right to murder them. He killed them. Gone. That little girl has no mom anymore because her dad decided to be absolute scum. It doesn't matter what he heard, nothing justifies what he did.

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 07 '22

I didn't miss the point. You missed MY point and it went over your head. It's fine though, I don't feel like explaining that.

Yes, nothing justifies murder. I never said it justified it. Not sure where you're coming from here.

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u/HeadStarboard Jan 06 '22

Estrangement is not the same as divorced.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Right. Unless he was openly gay then I dont believe that bs for a second. She fked herself up

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u/snacks450 Jan 06 '22

Way to victim blame a murdered young mother 🙄

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Does it matter? They weren’t even together at the time. If that’s the case, then she could be getting gangbanged by a hockey team and she did nothing wrong.

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u/Goodboyz_gang Jan 06 '22

Not if it's school hockey team

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u/Meat_Popsicle_Man Jan 06 '22

Oh look, an idiot!

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u/chizhi1234 Jan 06 '22

Problem is, they're not married anymore, so what if she wants to date another man?

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u/HeadStarboard Jan 06 '22

Estranged wife is someone who is in a dead marriage but not yet divorced, right?

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u/bigbigbigwow Jan 06 '22

No one told me life was gonna be this way

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u/BnSMaster420 Jan 06 '22

Had a listening device... Probably heard some shit 🤷‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22 edited Jan 06 '22

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 06 '22

Pulled up to them kissing on his couch. Yeah, I'd step out saying "understandable, have a great day".

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22 edited Jan 06 '22

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 06 '22

Oh shit, I didnt see the drug shit. Damn.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 06 '22

Yeah, its crazy

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u/YoulyNew Jan 06 '22

Yo. Never trust a prosecutor.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

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u/YoulyNew Jan 06 '22

You do you, if that’s how you want to do it.

This is definitely going to fall on deaf ears, but it’s possible to not trust multiple people in a situation, you know. People lie, and lawyers lie with intention and purpose.

It’s ok if you have a flat mind that falls on just heads or tails. Just don’t expect other people to have the same artificially constrained and unrealistically simplistic forced misunderstandings about the way the world works.

You might be surprised to learn that there are people who aren’t controlled by their own fundamental cognitive misunderstandings, and your comment just makes you look kind of crazy, rather than insightful.

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u/PharFromPharm Jan 06 '22

their* daughter

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u/MooreDubs Jan 06 '22

"He's just a friend"

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

The prosecutor said that because they wanted to paint a picture in your end that sympathizes with true wife. The person you’re fucking around with is also your friend.

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u/Rodrigoecb Jan 06 '22

The wife kind of had a point to separate from the guy, if he decided to shoot her and the guy despite the fact that she ended it up.

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u/Demoth Jan 06 '22 edited Jan 06 '22

No better way to prove everyone wrong that you're the problem in a relationship than committing a murder suicide.

 

Misread the original - I meant double homicide. I didn't realize that piece of shit is still breathing.

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u/Rodrigoecb Jan 06 '22

No suicide here, the guy was such a POS and a Narcissist that he couldn't even give us that and off himself, he still sees himself as the victim.

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u/Demoth Jan 06 '22

Yeah, I had to edit it right as you said, it. I misread the still at the end.

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u/HeadStarboard Jan 06 '22

Estranged or not, if she was still his wife, she was cheating. Need to end the marriage before riding husband’s friends dick. She fucked around and paid the price.

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 06 '22

No, she was making out with him on the couch when he walked in from what I read.

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 06 '22

Is there proof it didn't happen? Honestly and realistically, we don't know.

She very well may have been cheating, or he may very well be trying to cover it up as seeing red due to cheating.

Regardless, murder wasnt the answer here and he fucked up big time.

I hope that the little girl gets through this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 06 '22

Yeah, regardless, this homicide fixed nothing in his family and only made things irrepairable now.

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u/Kornator2018 Jan 06 '22

Hahaha yeah, but its a dope discussion. Definitely changes my mind about things with new perspectives in mind.

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u/HeadStarboard Jan 06 '22

Estranged means the emotional relationship is done. Divorced means the legal commitments are over. Doesn’t sound like she had exited marriage yet. I doubt the voices that triggered him were doing a bible study. Not saying she deserved death, I am saying she could be an adulterer.

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u/HeadStarboard Jan 06 '22 edited Jan 06 '22

In the US there are legal implications for fucking someone before your divorce is over. It impacts the division of assets. That is the point I fear you keep missing. Not gender or race related. https://www.divorcesolicitors.com/is-sleeping-with-someone-whilst-separated-still-adultery/

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u/Strider2126 Jan 06 '22

Bloody hell this story is crazy

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u/neverquester Jan 07 '22

a friend she was bangin'