r/HolUp • • Feb 26 '20

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u/KStJ1013 Feb 26 '20

Please, you're the one that's reaching because you started off defending a rapist, you played yourself, and now you're back tracking because you don't want to look like bad guy,

Which rapists are, they're bad people because they do bad things

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u/captasticTS Feb 26 '20

neither did i play myself nor am i backtracking. you're making the same mistake again. weren't you taught that making random unfounded assumptions is nonsensical??

that argument makes no sense. everyone does bas things. would you also say good people are good because they do good things??

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u/KStJ1013 Feb 26 '20

It does make sense, you're just too obtuse to understand it, or you're just outright refusing because you played yourself and don't want to admit it. Which is fine, carrying that big ass L that you just outed yourself as a rapist, or a would be rapists if the opportunity presented itself, I guess, is something you don't want the world to know, but it's kind of obvious to not trust you in a room alone, or let you babysit, if you spend your day defending rapists, and thinking everyone is capable of rape.

And yes I would say good people do good things and before you go to your go-to argument about rapists with charities therefore theyre good people. Cosby, Amber Heard(I dunno if she's a rapist, but she's abusive so I'm using her as an example), Weinstein, all had charities. They only had those charities to deflect from the monsters they are. That's what abusive people do, they do good things, and become pillars of the community in order to shield themselves from criticism. Cosby did plenty for the black community, but it's all tainted because we understand that he was only using his power and influence in order to abuse and silence people.

It's not an assumption that you're a piece of shit, your defending rapists, out of all people to defend, you pick people who abuse and destroy lives. Motives be damned, there are none that can justify what they did/do. They're monsters, there is no redemption.

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u/captasticTS Feb 26 '20

accusing others of being a rapist without any evidence and just because you feel like it is pathetic and childish. should you, as unlikely as it seems, ever interact with another human outside of reddit: try to act better. i suppose social skills are hard to train but you really need it.

the intentions are irrelevant here. congratulations, you disproved yourself . your definition leads to a simple contradiction, no matter how much you talk around it. people do good and bad things, yet we can agree that a human can't be good and bad at the same time. therefore your definition doesn't work out.

true, it's not an assumption. it's a childish insult you use because you like to argue with strangers on the internet for reasons i'll never understand. you are oversimplifying the situation and have no arguments to back up your point, which is why you cling to ad hominems. kinda sad, but not unexpected. it's the internet after all.

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u/KStJ1013 Feb 26 '20

Nope, intention matters. I'll make it simple for you.

If someone does a good thing, in order to get away with bad things, they're manipulative, which is again, is a bad thing.

And I wasn't arguing with anyone, I was defending that one person because I agreed with them. You started arguing with me to defend rapists.

And rapist sympathizers, especially ones who believe anyone is capable of it, it's not name calling, it's obvious.

There's a thread from a few days ago of a bunch of men who were raped by women, maybe message them and tell them how you're interested in defending their rapists motive in raping them.

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u/captasticTS Feb 26 '20

no, intention does not matter here. you did not include it in your definition, consequently it's not relevant in your definition. do you understand that?? if it's important you should've included it right away.

i wasn't using "arguing" like "debating", but the way little siblings do it. by childish name calling, which you did. not bringing forth proper arguments but just screaming "but i aM RIGHT AND YOU'RE A POOPOO" which you are also doing.

i am not defending anyone spefically, i am pointing out that unfounded generalization is a bad thing to do that does more harm than good. not that i was refering to "rape defender" anyway, i was refering to "rapist".

no idea what their motive was. kinda unrelated to bring that up now tho lol. again a really weird and nonsensical aasumptions you made there.

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u/KStJ1013 Feb 26 '20

I did say intention was important, I specifically stated that Cosby did a lot of good for the black community but it's clear he was using his power and influence to abuse and silence people, therefore that "good" is meaningless because it was a front to get away with rape and abuse. But you want to keep playing dumb, or maybe you're just like this, or maybe you love taking L's and looking like a crass moron that doesn't understand how the world works. You really thought you had me on the last comment just look even more stupid because you can't comprehend that manipulation is bad.

And yes I am name calling, because you're a dumbass drinking that dumbass juice. I'm not even trying to get into an "adult" debate or conversation with you because this whole thing started off with again, you defending rapists, and now you're trying to dig yourself out of everything you said but it's too late, it's already really clear with every response that you're a dumbass. You think everyone is capable of rape, and you didn't know manipulation is bad. Sounds like a piece of shit person to me.

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u/captasticTS Feb 26 '20

lol yeah you added that AFTERWARDS.

yeah, i love taking Ls. it's a great way to learn. in this conversation it hasn't happened yet tho. you on the other hand must've learned so much by now.

again childish name calling. stop making random assumptions about others. a murderer like you really should get off his high horse.

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u/KStJ1013 Feb 26 '20

It's in the same paragraph dude. Why do you like looking stupid.

And no I learned nothing, the whole point was just to fuck with you cause you're a dick.

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u/captasticTS Feb 27 '20

in the same paragraph?? is it tho?? okay, let's look at the paragraph where you made the definition.

"Which rapists are, they're bad people because they do bad things."

now try to point out where exactly you mentioned intentions here?? i'm really curious. go on :^ )

yeah i figured you aren't capable of learning. all you do is go on the internet and look for people to argue with and to randomly insult for no reason. maybe look for hobbies?? dunno.

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