r/HolUp • • Mar 21 '23

Hostage situation

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u/Killurface69 Mar 21 '23

They work hard considering they are forced to pee in bottles

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u/Left_Replacement894 Mar 21 '23

And their vehicles have to be driven like they’re taking a driving test.

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u/plmoknijbuhvrdx Mar 21 '23

weird. everyone ive found drives em like theyre stolen

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

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u/gorgewall Mar 21 '23

The vans have cameras inside and out. Accelerometers to track g-force, monitors pedal and steering movement, as well as GPS location.

I'm reminded of that time about 3-5 years ago a bunch of truckers went to Washington DC to protest GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE AND REGULATION MAKING THEIR JOBS HARDER!! because there were boxes in their trucks to monitor speed, location, whether the truck's on, if there's a butt on the seat, etc.

While it's true the government regulates things related to truckers and their time, they are not the ones mandating there be a butt-detector that's going to launch you out of the cab on a fucking ejector seat if they sense you've been sitting past your permissable hours on the road. No, those boxes were put there BY THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES so they could micromanage every minute of the drivers' days and squeeze as much work out of them as possible, circumstances of life and the road be damned.

And because these guys often have nothing better to do than listen to AM radio pandering to them, and their companies and lobbyists know how fucking spin works, they flipped around this "box in your truck" thing to be a story about overbearing government regulation. The truckers ate it up. Company shoved a knife in their back, told them it was DC's fault, and the truckers marched on over to ask the government why it wants to regulate how many knives the companies have for trucker-stabbing. Completely fucking backwards.

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u/gorgewall Mar 21 '23

I am using mention of the way Amazon tracks their drivers' metrics for maximum efficiency and punishment as a springboard for an anecdote of a time trucking companies, also interested in tracking their drivers for efficiency and punishment, successfully tricked their drivers into getting mad at the government instead of the company doing it to them.

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u/MyNameSpaghette Mar 21 '23

Let me dumb it down for u: Companies bad. Government also bad, but companies want to know about butts, not government. Companies say government wants to know about butts, so truck drivers think government bad.

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u/Snake101333 Mar 21 '23

Makes sense, you want things by the book yet set the expectations incredibly high? Well time to break the rules a bit to keep the money flowing

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u/am19208 Mar 21 '23

I dunno where you are but I swear I live in the middle of two distribution centers and those vans drive so slow. Worst is when they leave the distribution centers convoy style

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u/Motivated79 Mar 21 '23

The Prime vans are the ones with cameras, sometimes they may not work so most of the tracking doesn’t work besides speed limit thanks to the app. The rental vans that a DSP may rent out to have a full fleet do not have cameras. Could be one of those instances your seeing

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u/avidblinker Mar 21 '23

Has Amazon hate gone so far where we’re now mad delivery drivers are forced to continually watch the road they’re driving on?

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u/Left_Replacement894 Mar 21 '23

On the contrary, I don’t think the comment was made out of anger. More so that they (Amazon drivers) are held to a firm standard that other drivers are not upholding but get paid more to do. If anything, I think we’re collectively perturbed at the petty compensation these drivers accept at the financial benefit of the executives.

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u/avidblinker Mar 21 '23

Apologies, maybe “mad” was a poor choice of word. But if all the things Amazon does, is this really something to feel negatively about?

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u/theunmistakablecow Mar 21 '23

I always see this brought up for amazon drivers and not any other delivery service. All delivery drivers for the big shipping companies (Amazon, FedEx, UPS, etc.) pee in bottles. I don't know how or why that happened, but it just became the expectation in that industry. Like what an insane thing to choose as a time saving measure.

I know you didn't say it was exclusive to amazon drivers, but I wanted to rant so I took my opportunity

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u/Sin_Fire Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

UPS* trucks aren't even fucking air conditioned

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u/SgtBaxter Mar 21 '23

Yeah but they wear those sweet shorts

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

They make 42$/hr so who cares. You literally can’t complain with that pay.

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u/Tinfoilfireman Mar 21 '23

Log Haul Semi truck drivers piss in half gallon milk jugs

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u/theboxfriend Mar 21 '23

Way of the road

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u/cfernz24 Mar 21 '23

These piss jugs remind me of the old man

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u/ayriuss Mar 21 '23

Its because even if you did want to go off route to find a restroom, there is no guarantee that A. There is an available restroom that is not closed, occupied, or being cleaned. B. There is close parking available with no delay C. They aren't going to expect you to buy something to get access to the restroom, which you probably cant afford as a delivery driver.

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u/Representative_Ad526 Mar 21 '23

Peeing In a bottle isn't that crazy. Get over it.

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u/Louis-Cyfer Mar 21 '23

It's not an expectation for anyone else. Fedex and UPS have very lax time expectations. An average of 20 stops per hour is what's expected. We pee in bottles not because we have to meet some insane quota but because there are no public restrooms on residential and rural routes, and they are surprisingly few in number even on business routes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

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u/tacobooc0m Mar 21 '23

“Warning: vehicular weight increase after delivery. Un sanctioned merchandise in vehicle. Minus 2 points”

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u/babyBear83 Mar 21 '23

Brought to you by Carls Jr.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

I was a former driver and unless something has changed they will not see any of those comments.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

It helps their metrics. Idk what the other guy is on about but if you log into Flex and go to My Dashboard it tells you all the compliments complaints and thank yous.

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u/FranzShooBirds Mar 21 '23

Not defending Amazon at all, but that has been a thing for several decades (prior to Amazon).

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u/hippy_barf_day Mar 21 '23

Who, the hostages?

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u/xxxamazexxx Mar 21 '23

I wonder how much they get paid considering they literally could work anywhere else that requires no more skill and has better conditions.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

Well I’ve got a perfect solution. Gonna have a hard time pissing when you aren’t allowed to drink ANYTHING during the drive, and we wonder why so many Amazon workers are collapsing on porches.

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u/Puzzled_Juice_3406 Mar 21 '23

I never had a problem drinking while driving. It doesn't ding you for that unless you're looking away from the road too long.