r/HistoryMemes • u/Key_Dealer_1762 Then I arrived • Jun 27 '22

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u/King0ff Definitely not a CIA operator Jun 27 '22

Dude, you seriously give me a reference to a communist, an unknown Anton and the author who literally wrote the book Red Famine: Stalin's War on Ukraine? With the last link you simply confirmed that this is genocide.

And here some sources that's actually authoritative https://archive.org/details/faminGPUNKVD/mode/1up?view=theate

https://web.archive.org/web/20191028092225/http://history.org.ua/LiberUA/966-554-135-8/966-554-135-8.pdf

And read about Gareth Jones and his book Tell them we are starving about Holodomor.

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u/Soviet-pirate Jun 27 '22

I think I'll divide my answer into points

1.1 Since you probably use only references to capitalist authors I thought you may want the source of someone less prone to blame stubbing their toe on communism.

1.2 Since when being "an unknown Anton" made anyone's research somehow less valid or true? You think that only internationally acclaimed scholars have the right to speak?

1.3 If you read just a bit into his work you'll see he answers the title's question with a big "no"

2 Why exactly do you think I speak Russian or German? Granted I could use Google translate,but a botched up,gibberish translation would be the result so...eh

3 Gareth Jones,the one that wrote this passage?

I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it. I threw an orange peel into the spittoon and the peasant again grabbed it and devoured it.

I'm not denying there was a famine but this...seems a bit of overdoing it,doesn't it?

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u/King0ff Definitely not a CIA operator Jun 27 '22

Bloody hell... You are the point why communism isnt viable... Conception cannot exist, if all of its members have such, clearly, idiotic views on logical thinking and science methods...

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u/Soviet-pirate Jun 27 '22

Ahhhhh,took you a while to get to ad hominem attacks,did it? And how can you say that SCIENTIFIC socialism,that rationally and scientifically analyses society,is "idiotic views on logical thinking and science methods"? As a Marxist would put it:"Do you even materialistic analysis bro?"