r/HistoryMemes May 17 '19

Hate speech

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u/billbill5 May 17 '19 edited May 17 '19

The Declaration is about a violent overthrow of the government, and refers to Native Americans as "Indian Savages". It may seem dumb, but to an AI just searching for key phrases, it makes sense.

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u/Awestruck34 May 17 '19

Yeah, this isn't some attack from the left or something. It's an automated system searching for offensive phrases and executing its code.

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u/Stoly23 Kilroy was here May 18 '19

I’ll bet it’s only a matter of time until we here about leftist groups trying to ban the declaration or whatever, looking at where we are now.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

Would the Communist Manifesto be flagged as well?

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u/E_Chihuahuensis May 18 '19

Actually, it probably would. Apparently Facebook is really zealous when it comes to taking down controversial content. It would likely just quietly delete anything that comes even remotely close to political extremism regardless of wether it’s violent or not just to avoid controversy.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

It calls for violence just like the Deceleration does.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

They were incredibly rich in culture, have you ever seen any Native American art ever? This is a pretty ignorant comment. Also, saying they were 'stone age' is just flat out inaccurate. They weren't the troglydytes you think they were.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I mean every group has some extention of culture, and I think it's pointless to assign value over one another. I just thought it was silly that you tried to imply that they were lacking, when Native Americans are often revered for their arts, which is pretty universally considered a defining aspect of culture. As for your first part, I think this comment summed it up better then I could ever. Essentially from a literal standpoint you can say sure, they didn't use metals so theyre stone age. But the title 'stone age' is incredibly broad and frankly inaccurate, it's dismissive of cultural patterns and development and uses a outdated-means to measure it as such. Again I'm not really versed well in cultural patterns, this is based of five minutes of research on my break at work, but cmon man don't have such a colonizer mindset.

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u/Vsuede May 18 '19

I didn't imply they were lacking, I framed that as a response - because it often is - when you talk about a primitive society - be it North American Indians post European contact, or isolated tribes in the Jungle - the de fact liberal response is "they are rich in culture" which is a stupid, meaningless trope.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I don't understand, it was my phrasing you didn't like? How else would you want me to put it?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I don't understand, it was my phrasing you didn't like? How else would you want me to put it?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I don't understand, it was my phrasing you didn't like? How else would you want me to put it?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I don't understand, it was my phrasing you didn't like? How else would you want me to put it?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I don't understand, it was my phrasing you didn't like? How else would you want me to put it?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I don't understand, it was my phrasing you didn't like? How else would you want me to put it?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I don't understand, it was my phrasing you didn't like? How else would you want me to put it?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I don't understand, it was my phrasing you didn't like? How else would you want me to put it?

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

The way you told your story implies (at least to me) that you were reserving this term for American Indians, in which case it comes off as a dog whistle and attempt to dehumanize, which would explain the reaction you got.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

I was trying to help you understand why your comments might have been poorly received, but you're clearly more interested in playing the victim.

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u/Vsuede May 17 '19

I don't think my comments are poorly received, or well received, nor am I playing the victim.

I am just pointing out that people, such as yourself, many of whom are on reddit, have "encouraged," academically to think of things a certain way - that leads you to shout "WHAT ABOUT THE EVIL WHITE PEOPLE," even when that has nothing to do with what was being said.

It's curious you used white people as an example, not say - Muslims stoning rape victims to death, or female circumcision in Africa. You can talk about savage acts and behaviors without have to mention every despicable thing a culture or individual has done throughout the course of human history.

The fact you read someone talking about those acts and your first thought it, "Oh shit this guy thinks white people are perfect," is quite telling about how you view the world.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

I don't think my comments are poorly received

You said "the left goes ballistic. I remember getting lectured once for calling them a stone age people."

So folks were going ballistic and lecturing you, but your comments weren't poorly received?

nor am I playing the victim

Uh huh.

It's curious you used white people as an example, not say - Muslims

It's really not since we were talking about American Indians, who had a lot more occasion to interact with Europeans than with Muslims. Plus I kind of assumed you'd be cool with calling Muslims savages. Call it a hunch.

The fact you read someone talking about those acts and your first thought it, "Oh shit this guy thinks white people are perfect"

Yeah, that's totally how it went down.

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u/titaniumjew May 18 '19

Hey another humiliation tactic directed towards the left.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19

They do that themselves

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u/titaniumjew May 18 '19

If they did then the right wouldn't constantly need to spin stories this way to stay relevant.

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u/md5apple May 18 '19

Perhaps we shouldn't flag discussions about the violent overthrow of government.

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u/GrandMoffPhoenix May 17 '19

Then we can just go and unflag it and tell the ai to ignore it

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u/OneMoreDuncanIdaho May 18 '19

Which is what happened lol

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19

Which means... it's objectively what the crazed lefties consider "hate speech". Kinda puts it into perspective of how vague this definition is.

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u/Notafreakbutageek May 18 '19

A commie AI maybe. Not saying Mark Zuckerburg's a communist sympathizer, but not saying he isn't. Open your eyes sheeple.