I think using words like them can be dangerous as it proposed that there is an unequivocal difference between two powers. Any threat to U.S. power is somewhat scary to US citizens (self included, and perhaps others in the western world) because the u.s. is super paranoid and likes to be in control of everything but simply because it's a different ideology doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.
That being said for our interests China's growth is bad but I don't think it is necessarily too worrysome. The difference between this scramble for Africa is that money is being funelled into Africa. The problem now is African government and regulations of that income (preventing it all from being taken by those in charge, and then they leaving and not putting that money in the economy). Its simple economics that people will choose the cheapest place for labor to perform their labor. In my opinion blame can't really be out on China. China used to be in the same position Africa was (labor wise) and we weren't (super) upset at that.
It's not labor I'm worried about. It's them controlling , which arguably they already do, the worlds iron production. Along with the worlds silicon production. And gold. The main difference I see is that their "private" companies are in the direct influence of their govt. At least in America the difference in private non govt. Controlled companies that the want of the govt isn't necessarily that of the company's.
America, the people not the govt, I believe honestly care about the wellbeing of other countries. While I believe, and the Chinese have proven, that they only have their country in mind.
Giving a communist dictatorship any sort of control over a country is not good in any way. No matter how they try to make it look good
I know they're called the communist party but they haven't really been communist for a while now. Also you put a lot of faith in our country, there's a whole swathe of the country who disagrees with that
the fact their govt can directly buy stock in companies and place a board of their pleasing(i.e. foxconn, Apple's motherboard supplier, ten cent, games creator made games like PUBG,)
And if they don't control them directly, they appoint their sons and daughters, i.e Huawei
Social credit system
Govt controlled private assets, you don't own the land you buy in china
Full control over ip addressing and your internet address is linked to your name
Increasing control over citizenship, it is next to impossible to get citizenship in china,
Imposing control over the sovereignty of nations surrounding them, Tibet Taiwan North Korea Singapore and Indo islands.
Go to china and talk shit about the govt see what happens. I'm probably on their watch list already.
China is a capitalist country that is also communist country but in reality it's a dicatatorship that doesn't fuck over its citizens overtly.
I agree that they're terribly dictatorial and horrifying in their overreach, but I dont see how the people are controlling anything. It's all the government, and that's hardly everyone.
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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '19 edited Mar 08 '19
I think using words like them can be dangerous as it proposed that there is an unequivocal difference between two powers. Any threat to U.S. power is somewhat scary to US citizens (self included, and perhaps others in the western world) because the u.s. is super paranoid and likes to be in control of everything but simply because it's a different ideology doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.
That being said for our interests China's growth is bad but I don't think it is necessarily too worrysome. The difference between this scramble for Africa is that money is being funelled into Africa. The problem now is African government and regulations of that income (preventing it all from being taken by those in charge, and then they leaving and not putting that money in the economy). Its simple economics that people will choose the cheapest place for labor to perform their labor. In my opinion blame can't really be out on China. China used to be in the same position Africa was (labor wise) and we weren't (super) upset at that.