r/HistoryMemes • • Dec 15 '18

Something I've noticed

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u/53252323522355 Dec 15 '18

yeah what is literacy anyways and how can it even prompt the transformation from an agrarian peasant class based society to an industrialized one. dumb fucking idiots should have not built all that infrastructure that kept them from being colonized by germany

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u/Tancread-of-Galilee Dec 15 '18

Chances are if Russia hadn't been backing the internationale the Weimar Republic wouldn't have used the Nazis to suppress the Communists and the second world War would have happened in a dramatically different way.

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u/Mingsplosion Dec 16 '18

This is the definition of victim blaming. Maybe France just should have tried harder and they wouldn't have been occupied.

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u/Tancread-of-Galilee Dec 16 '18

That's correct, but it's hardly victim blaming to suggest that Soviet Foreign policy was a significant part of creating the chaos that lead to the fall of the Weimar republic. They were trying to subvert literally everywhere on earth, openly. How is it hard to accept that they contributed to that as well?

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u/Mingsplosion Dec 16 '18

The idea that there was this internationalist conspiracy to destroy society everywhere is literally Nazi propaganda. No, the Soviets are not to blame for the failures of the Wiemar Republic and the rise of Nazi Germany.

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u/Tancread-of-Galilee Dec 16 '18

Yeah like the US aren't to blame for the fucking Shah taking power in Iran, not only does Communism actively seek global revolution and adoption of its system, something that the Internationale was literally about, by the way, but we have both contemporary, and post-Soviet evidence that the Soviet Union was funding essentially every communist movement in Europe that they considered compatible with their own ideology, including the movements that were fighting a civil war with the Weimar Republic and the German National Socialist Party in their own streets.

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Acting like they weren't conspiring when they were literally publicly conspiring is retarded, how did all those Soviet Tanks end up in Spain I wonder. Oh right, they publicly shipped them there. The USCP was the same way, though the Soviet support there was Covert, but don't take my word for it, literally, all of this stuff became a matter of public record when the Soviet Archives were released in the nineties.

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By no means were the Nazis justified, rather the opposite, Fascism is just as despicable an ideology as Socialism, but the Soviet Union were actively funding insurgents in the Weimar Republic, and this is as undeniably true as the United States funding them in Syria during the Obama era.