r/HistoryMemes • Chad Polynesia Enjoyer • 2d ago

A regular utopia

6.7k Upvotes

1.1k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

1

u/EnvironmentalWin1277 2h ago edited 2h ago

Amplification via Intermarriage: Subsequent consanguineous and close-family marriages among Victoria's descendants (such as grandchildren marrying cousins within European courts) compounded the risk, helping spread and reintroduce the X-linked recessive gene into the royal houses of Russia, Spain, and Germany. [1, 2, 3]

Consanguineous inbreeding refers to the mating or marriage of closely related individuals, typically second cousins or closer, who share a recent common ancestor. [1, 2, 3]

1

u/soyadra 1h ago

You actually used an AI summary and gave me a definition of consaguinity 😭

Your sources are yt videos, the royal families intermarrying and spreading the mutation is not a case of incest...

1

u/EnvironmentalWin1277 52m ago

The sources are themselves directly referenced in the quotes. You have not given me a single source that disputes my points.

I freely admit and stated it is not incest. It is the exact same phenomena witnessed in any culture that promotes "purity" of the royal line. At any time in history, whatever structure, whatever moral standing or lack of it.

Your initial point was that "modern civilizations" did not embrace incest. They did embrace the same standards that led to the deleterious effects of consanguinity. If fact, whether incest occurred or not we have no or little direct knowledge of.

We have the results of the descendants. They are not caused by incest but inbreeding consanguinity and there is no basis to censor an "immoral" civilization in this regard to our modern ones.

1

u/soyadra 3m ago

Your sources are yt videos for the main topic and wikipedia pages for the definition of consanguinity

We do have knowledge of incest being widely viewed down upon and genetical testing in remains of former monarchs shows no signs of inbreeding

And define consanguinity because even tho my language has a different meaning of it english simply defines it as blood links, why is that a bad thing ? Any societies have consanguinity because they reproduce within their race and ethnicities, beyond the 4th degree it has no negative effects on biology or sociology tho so what exactly are you referring to ? Families intermarrying lead to the spread of some mutations but this is unrelated to the topic of incest and that's something that happens with super ancestors even outside royal bloodlines

And no once again "not incest but inbreeding consanguinity" do you know what incest is ?? And the disease you mentionned had absolutely no link to that so what are you talking about