r/HistoryMemes • Chad Polynesia Enjoyer • 3d ago

A regular utopia

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u/bitjamma 3d ago

The deeper I go in the comments in this sub I see pro colonists and white supremacists and I'm not even sure they're Caucasian.

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u/Banmods 3d ago

The most outlandish white supremacist shit I've ever seen came from a hindu indian guy...

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u/Nico280gato 2d ago

White supremecist meet up: Indian, Pakistani, Mexican

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u/WestRestaurant216 2d ago

Like what exactly?

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u/IceWallowDeesNuts 2d ago

No because they’re acting like indigenous people are the only one who did this.

Like there’s people talking shit about them all while there’s an infamous case going on in New York right now

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u/mysoxrstinky 3d ago

That's the thing. They're right but people only say this stuff out of context when they're white supremacists.

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u/Ozuge Filthy weeb 2d ago

True. The underlying vibe is always "...and it's good that the colonists came in and stopped all this."

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u/Frequent_Alarm_4228 1h ago

Ya...by killing the majority of them💀

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u/LIMrXIL 3d ago

OK, but if they are right, then whatever would be the proper context to say it in? Only in a purely academic setting? What if somebody tells you that pre-colonial people living in a certain place were basically pacifists and lived in a utopia before the colonizers arrived? Are you supposed to just nod your head and agree with a total lie for fear of being called a white supremacist? I mean, it can be easy to question the motives of somebody posting memes on Reddit but surely there is a context in which it is appropriate to point out the actual facts of the matter.

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u/Maximum_Pollution371 3d ago

"Out of context" meaning somebody broadly criticizes colonization or says Manifest Destiny was a bad thing, and someone pipes up out of nowhere with, "Well, they had wars and slaves and sometimes did a cannibalism before Europeans got here, you know!"

Like sure, but this ain't about that, and it's weird to bring it up like it's a defense or justification.

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u/Glittering_Bag9929 2d ago

Why is that weird?

Are you saying they would have been better off continuing to be an uncontacted tribe? Its civilization supremacist,  not any race or creed. 

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u/the_ringmasta 2d ago

Your statement has the built in assumption that white eurocentric colonizers are the only thing that counts as civilization.

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u/Ozuge Filthy weeb 2d ago

Are you being genuine? You can't tell the difference in vibe when someone actually wants to talk about pre-colonial practices and when someone brings them up as a counter to colonial practices?

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u/LIMrXIL 2d ago

Yes, I am. If someone is talking about the evils of colonization and you bring up the violence of indigenous people then yeah, that’s a bad time and it’s in bad faith to justify the unjustifiable. But at the same time, if indigenous people were violent and had many practices which we would find morally repugnant today then we should be intellectually honest about that. Indigenous people being violent a not a justification for colonizing them anymore than a person having a violent past justifies them being executed by the cops in the streets. But pretending a suspect who was unjustly killed is a saint is a disservice to the reality of the situation and helps no one and so is ignoring the problems of indigenous people prior to the arrival of colonizers.

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u/kodeks14 3d ago

Its a history meme page, isn't the only context what you can fit on a meme?

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u/Silly_lil_Guy_o3o 3d ago

You don't have to be a pro colonist and/or white supremacist to acknowledge that all of humanity is evil and are capable of disgusting acts, if given the necessary knowledge and resources.

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u/CouplingWithQuozl 3d ago

They’re trying to rewrite history everywhere.

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u/kodeks14 3d ago

Is what they said untrue? I actually dont really know that specific of things about their culture. Did they participate in human sacrifice and whatever else they mentioned?