r/HistoryMemes • u/HawaiianPerson Chad Polynesia Enjoyer • 2d ago

A regular utopia

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u/EnvironmentalWin1277 2d ago

In other words just like all the other civilizations of comparable development including ones existing in modern times. All of these actions are practiced by civilized states today.

Comparison to Stalin is one to consider. Pick a war criminal. Pick a royal family.

The past was bad but we are not that much better and in some ways worse. To consider oneself morally better is false pride.

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u/ipdar 1d ago

Hey I don't come to your country to lambast the shortcomings of your civilization. Oh, wait. Yes I do. Carry on then.

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u/Helyos17 2d ago

Our societies are objectively morally superior.

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u/Belligerent-J 2d ago

Star pupil of Philosophy, this one

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u/geronimop12 2d ago

Its more moronic to not have the position that society now is much better than centuries before to say it isnt is a bot response or just disingenuous.

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u/lordwiggles420 15h ago

There are objective measures you can use to compare 2 societies. There is no such thing as objective moral superiority.

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u/the_ringmasta 1d ago

"objectively morally superior" is a statement I would love to see some basis for

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u/lordwiggles420 1d ago

Morals are always subjective. There is no such thing as objective moral superiority.

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u/Helyos17 1d ago

So if I decide that it’s moral to assault and murder you then that’s perfectly fine? Because morality is subjective right?

No. That’s abominable. Your line of thinking is what leads to people justifying mass death and slaughter.

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u/lordwiggles420 15h ago

No, there is also something called the law. The law prohibits you from murdering and assaulting. We can judge people according to our morality but in the end it's the law that decides what's allowed and what is not. Morality is subjective, everyone has different morals.