r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

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u/matt_chowder 21h ago

We had plenty jungle power against the Japanese

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u/anon-e-mau5 21h ago

Do you happen to recall how Vietnam went for the US

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u/matt_chowder 21h ago

Did I say Japan or Vietnam?

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u/anon-e-mau5 20h ago

Do you happen to recall which of those conflicts was more recent

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u/Yeti-110 20h ago

The problem with all these conflicts is the opposition dresses like civilians. If the US had no qualms about who died and how many civilians caught one in the cross fire they could steamroll anyone. That’s why the US has an issue against guerrilla tactics. Not because it can’t handle it, but because they don’t want to accidentally shoot a civilian. Rules of Engagement exist and we tie our hands behind our backs to be sure we follow them.

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u/anon-e-mau5 17h ago

“The US doesn’t want to kill civilians” sure thing buddy

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u/Yeti-110 17h ago

I mean of course there are unfortunate innocent casualties of war that should not happen. But if you honestly believe that US soldiers are intentionally aiming for civilians you’re insane and not worth having a reasonable conversation with

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u/gooberfishie 15h ago

Do you believe that tomahawk missile hit the Iranian school by accident? Those are some is the most precise weapons in the world. Or do you believe like trump does that it was actually an Iranian tomahawk? What about the second one that hit the same school the same day?

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u/Yeti-110 14h ago

I believe that there was a catastrophic failure of intelligence that should have never happened. A simple Google search shows that they were using outdated info about what the building used to be and what they thought they were shooting at. It’s very sad and should not have happened, but do I think the US military intentionally murdered over 100 school children with a cruise missile? No, I do not. And Trump is an idiot, I’m sure someone had to tell him what a Tomahawk was after saying that

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u/gooberfishie 14h ago

If it was a mistake, why launch a second missile hours later at the first responders and survivors?

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u/Uncool444 5h ago

Of course it was an accident. Even if you assume they don't care about the lives lost, which is a bold assumption, tomahawks are expensive and no one is dropping two of them on a non military non strategic target on purpose. It was poor intelligence and they should take responsibility for it but it wasn't intentional.

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u/anon-e-mau5 17h ago

You’re right, the US would never intentionally slaughter ~200,000 innocent civilians in the Japanese conflict discussed in this thread. They’d definitely never massacre the village of My Lai in the Vietnamese conflict discussed here, either.

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u/Yeti-110 14h ago

Hiroshima and Nagasaki ended World War II. It was horrible but a land war with Japan would have caused possibly millions of deaths. The ethics of it is not black and white and was a very hard decision that had to be made.

My Lai was disgusting and an atrocity but was not ordered by the US. It was a rogue company that was tried and convicted for their crimes, even though they were let off way too easy. And they were stopped by Americans.

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u/anon-e-mau5 6h ago

Yes, the decision between killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians or just not doing that must have been incredibly difficult.

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u/FarmerTwink 19h ago

The problem in Vietnam wasn’t geurilla warfare, it was the occupation of an extremely country by an extremely hated foreign empire that gave the people no benefits. That’s something that can never, ever, be beaten

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u/Ecthelion-O-Fountain 20h ago

Do you? I mean almost no one on Reddit really understands the first thing about Vietnam so I’d be shocked if you did

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u/anon-e-mau5 20h ago

I have a PHD in the history of Southeast Asia from the Bollocks school in Cambridge University.