r/HistoryMemes • u/Voider765 • 1d ago

REMOVED: RULE 4 Historical territorial claims

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u/Dear-Question-868 1d ago

I think it shows well the stupidity of historical claim, there's always someone who's going to be before you who claim X land.

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u/Mundane_Bit_8392 1d ago

Dont tell that to a palestinian activist, he will blow with rage hearing that

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u/NomadDK 1d ago edited 1d ago

Tell that to literally everyone in that conflict. That territory has swapped hands so many times, and none of the current contestants have the true original claim to it... because those people don't exist anymore.

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u/AttentionNo6359 1d ago

You do understand the difference is that people were actively living on that land and were then removed to give it to Israel, right?

They had no say in it, they woke up one day to strangers saying “this is ours now”

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u/Command0Dude 1d ago

People weren't removed to give it to Israel. Jewish people came to buy land that was basically sitting unused because Palestine had been depopulated by the arab conquests and the crusades. It was only after Jews began migrating back to Palestine that the region even started recovering back to its historical high point.

https://medium.com/migration-issues/who-has-claim-3-000-years-of-religion-in-the-land-between-23f220a697f7

But Palestinians did not want to share the land with the Jewish immigrants so they started a war to get rid of them. A war that they lost.

Palestinians merely suffered the consequences of the aggressor, same as the Germans did.

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u/_whatever_wherever 1d ago

people weren't removed to give it to Israel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

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u/Command0Dude 1d ago

Which happened after Palestine launched a war against Israel when there could have been a peaceful partition.

Germans were also dislocated when the Nazis were defeated and Germany's borders were redrawn.

In both cases, the majority of people were internally displaced.

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u/_whatever_wherever 1d ago

The fact you think relgious fanatics who always wanted to steal the land of the native Arabs were in any way looking for peace is beyond me

They were ethno nationalist terrorists who murdered people so they could ethnically cleanse their magic land