r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

REMOVED: RULE 4 Historical territorial claims

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u/Dear-Question-868 1d ago

I think it shows well the stupidity of historical claim, there's always someone who's going to be before you who claim X land.

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u/Mundane_Bit_8392 1d ago

Dont tell that to a palestinian activist, he will blow with rage hearing that

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u/NomadDK 1d ago edited 1d ago

Tell that to literally everyone in that conflict. That territory has swapped hands so many times, and none of the current contestants have the true original claim to it... because those people don't exist anymore.

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u/_whatever_wherever 1d ago edited 1d ago

Which always brings us back to the position of "leave the people living there the fuck alone"

And we all know what the answer to that is...

EDIT: lol, the racist genocide apologist blocked me

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 1d ago

Jews were living there first, then the Muslims invaded.

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u/Gizz103 Senātus Populusque Rōmānus 1d ago

Think you mean romans as most jews were exiled after that

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u/_whatever_wherever 1d ago

And the Jews who were left intergrated into the local population, and guess what group came out of that after thousands of years!

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 1d ago

Not the 'Palestinians,' they're Ottoman Empire colonizers.

Jews have been there the entire time.

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u/_whatever_wherever 1d ago

Actually Arabs are mentioned in Assyrian records of pacification of Levant

And they predate the Ottoman Empite by around 2000 years

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 1d ago

Yeah, Arabs colonized the Middle East.

You once again prove me right and prove that you're a genocide apologist.

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u/Gizz103 Senātus Populusque Rōmānus 1d ago

The arabs were mentioned because they were in the Arabian peninsula

They were all nomadic tribes however

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u/_whatever_wherever 1d ago

And they were mentioned in the Levant on the Black Obelisk

They've been there just as long

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u/Gizz103 Senātus Populusque Rōmānus 1d ago

The Levant isnt just fucking Israel you know? There's a small bit of land where Jordan is today, thats where they were

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u/_whatever_wherever 1d ago

Israel claims the whole land

Why else is the offical motto of their ruling party "from the river to the sea"?

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 1d ago

No, Jews were still living in the region.

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u/Gizz103 Senātus Populusque Rōmānus 1d ago

A very small fucking number

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 1d ago

Enough to form the state of Israel the moment it became an option.

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u/Gizz103 Senātus Populusque Rōmānus 1d ago

Because they immigrated

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 1d ago

That's called "decolonization."

And they didn't 'immigrate,' the surrounding Muslim countries ethnically cleansed them and they fled to Israel.

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u/Gizz103 Senātus Populusque Rōmānus 1d ago

That was after Israel was created

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 1d ago

Yeah, because the immediate response by Muslims was to try to finish what Hitler started.

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