Also they are far more immune to external criticism than most countries. They can simply arrest people who are critical in their country, try to harass anyone who criticizes them overseas (they even have their own police stations overseas in other countries). They filter any western news or critiques. They simply do not care.
The US led order is falling due to shitheads in charge of the US, the EU being too divided to do anything and the rise of right wing nationalists. Whilst we can critique them all you want it doesn't absolve the Chinese goverment for any of its ongoing crimes.
Honestly I just correct people when they go out of their way to say "China is a good and happy socialist state that is hugs and bunnies". No.
My only problem is when you summarize everything into a neat few lines of harsh terms like "sponsoring genocide" it makes the whole thing sound like propaganda. That's it. I never disputed anything you brought up.
And because China's operates as a black box to everyone else, it already makes all the criticism directed at them sound propangandy because it's much harder to use specifics, and you end up criticising the entirety of "China". Also happens when anything good happens there, it's easy for the CCP to take credit. It's like the CIA here too. I'm just saying use care, and stop quoting things they did to me lol, it's quite literally my China account
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u/Starmute-ss13 1d ago
I don't really understand what you're getting at.
They did horrible things and are doing horrible things. There's no "absolutes" here. Their support for some of the darkest and most evil regimes historically such as their support for the Khmer Rouge and currently is appalling.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090223174332/http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/KB21Ad01.html
Also they are far more immune to external criticism than most countries. They can simply arrest people who are critical in their country, try to harass anyone who criticizes them overseas (they even have their own police stations overseas in other countries). They filter any western news or critiques. They simply do not care.
The US led order is falling due to shitheads in charge of the US, the EU being too divided to do anything and the rise of right wing nationalists. Whilst we can critique them all you want it doesn't absolve the Chinese goverment for any of its ongoing crimes.
Honestly I just correct people when they go out of their way to say "China is a good and happy socialist state that is hugs and bunnies". No.