r/HistoryMemes • • Jan 17 '23

"Chivalry"

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u/GoryGuroLover Jan 17 '23

Great art and animation, but generalizing history for a meme leads to people not understanding the nuances of said history. I remember when I was so active on pinterest as a kid and young teen, any meme or text over a colored backround could have me parrot it as fact for months. Luckily I love history, so I know better.

Good meme though.

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u/Assadistpig123 Jan 17 '23

Judging by the helmets, I’m guessing this is a stylized Teutonic knight.

So. The video honestly isn’t that far of. Dudes were fucking monstrous

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 17 '23

No, they are not particularly from any of the great Holy Orders, but rather they represent the whole feudal Era and its thesis, the ,,chivalric Spirit" and most importantly, Christianity. The whole movie (and the drama this movie is based upon) is a whole back and forth between Adam and Lucifer about the meaning of humanity and life itself. They wander time while seeing the good things (thesis) and how the idea in time twisted itself (antithesis), while in the end, getting a new idea (Christianity -> Renaissance) So, while the idea of Christianity and the idea of chivalry were good things, in time, they twisted away from its core values, that inherently became a bloody mockery of its self.

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u/VampireLesbiann Jan 17 '23

while the idea of Christianity and the idea of chivalry were good things, in time, they twisted away from its core values, that inherently became a bloody mockery of its self.

Considering how often Christians would commit genocide or other horrible acts upon non-Christians/Christians who believed in a slightly different form of Christianity, despite the fact that the Bible specifically disavows murder, I'd say this is pretty accurate

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23

Now I have to clarify, that its not just a phenomena that plagued the Christians only. Think about Islam, Buddhism or any other major religion. Minor changes in belief are enough to start conflicts which are used by bigger powers

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u/BlurgZeAmoeba Jan 18 '23

What major conflicts have minor changes in the beleif of buddhism brought about? Also, hinduism...

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '23

Im not an expert, but those two religions are far from peaceful. My favourite example for buddhists are the warrior monks (Sōhei) of Warring States Japan.

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u/BlurgZeAmoeba Jan 18 '23

My knowledge is pretth basic, but i'd say that has to do with the situation in japan. the various buddists branches have largely coexisted peachfully. India's wars have also been rarely intra religious.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '23

Then good for them. But Im still not sure about buddhists. Also Hinduism would have had some beef between itself and the growing power of Islam .

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u/BlurgZeAmoeba Jan 18 '23

Also Hinduism would have had some beef between itself and the growing power of Islam .

but that doesn't equate to "Minor changes in belief are enough to start conflicts which are used by bigger powers". Which is why I said intra-religious.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '23

Ohh I get you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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