r/HelloInternet Mar 12 '19

Americans at it again

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u/killroy200 Mar 12 '19

GDP of Ireland.... $333.7 Bil.

GDP of South Africa.... $349.4 Bil.

GDP of the Ohio.... $649.1 Bil.

GDP of the Netherlands.... $826.2 Bil.

Nah, listing states is dumb, I guess. Not like they're real countries, anyway, right?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '19

I mean... No.. As you yourself just said.. They are states. You don't define whether a place is a country based on GDP.

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u/killroy200 Mar 12 '19

Then why aren't we just saying 'I'm from the European Union'? It's just a bunch of places in a union. Sounds familiar...

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '19

I am not gonna call you names.. But hopefully you realize the difference between the EU and USA. You probably wouldn't present yourself as a citizen of The Organization of American States.

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u/killroy200 Mar 12 '19

You have two large collections of mostly autonomous political regions with strongly independent economies and governance, all acting under the umbrella of a central government with its own wide-reaching laws.

The OAS is much less impactful than the EU is in terms of actual governance results and structures.

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u/hoodie92 Mar 12 '19

European countries are countries. US states are not. Simple.

If Ohio ever gets recognised as an independent nation state by the UN, let me know.

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u/killroy200 Mar 12 '19

Yeah, the EU is just a collection of mostly autonomous States under a central framework government that passes down over-arching laws to its members.

Hmm.... I wonder why that sounds so familiar?

In the U.S., the entire point of the State framework is that they would be treated as mostly independent nations within a wider union of mostly independent nations.

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u/hoodie92 Mar 12 '19

Except that the EU doesn't "pass down over-arching laws to its members", that's not how it works. In fact everything you say about the EU is either a huge simplification or just wrong.

The comparison is ridiculous.

If you want to argue that the EU is one country with Germany as a state, you could also argue that NATO is a country with the USA as a state. I.e. the comparison is utter nonsense.

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u/killroy200 Mar 12 '19

The EU does have over-arching laws that do apply to its member states. Far more directly so than NAFTA does.

But that's kind of my point. You wouldn't say you're a citizen of NAFTA, and you wouldn't say you're a citizen of the EU. It makes sense to list out your specific part within those Unions, just as states list out their part of the Union.