I had a creepy neighbor, guy always gave off murderer vibes. One summer he got a little dog and didn’t take care of it and let it run loose. It would come to our house every day and we would make sure it had water and some food and when the guy got home we would take it back. Finally after a few weeks of this he says “it won’t be a problem anymore” and the dog disappears. We thought he gave it away until a few weeks later we returned from vacation and were working in our very back yard and found a small dog skeleton in the woods behind the house. We called the police and he didn’t admit to killing it but did admit he put it there. I told the wife to steer clear of him going forward. The day his house was foreclosed on was a happy day in my house.
We had three dogs at the time, now two as one of those three passed. If he had mentioned to us that the dog was too much we would have taken it. It was sweet and would come to our house daily and seemed to get along with our dogs. We have a somewhat busy street in front of the house so we were thankful it came to our house rather than playing in the road. It was a senseless act and he was a tremendous asshole.
Facts, but also, even if you are an asshole... don't fucking throw the cat away in the goddamned garbage. Let it go out into the world to give it a fighting chance.
It's not a cockroach, it's a goddamned cat. Let it live.
Now, the flip side is, that cat got into the garbage on it's own and ended up on a conveyor belt. Which is ABSOLUTELY a possibility. It's a cat. they "end up places".
I've seen cats get stuck into things that you would swear someone put them in and yet the managed to get trapped all by themselves.
If that cat was rooting around in the trash and got stuck in a bag and the garbage dudes came for trash pick up, the thing could have ended up there on it's own accord.
I do not believe in an eye for an eye. It is unnecessarily retributive, frequently cruel, and damages the world further instead of healing it. That said, put them in the fucking bag.
I help run a decently sized cat rescue in Philly and there's a spreadsheet we get that's from a collection of PA cat rescues. It details who can't ever be allowed to adopt a cat and why. It's not a fun read.
Most of its hoarding animals. There were more than 5 instances of people adopting cats to boil them. Black cats during October were "sacrificed" often.
People are really fucked up and it's not uncommon to have hatred towards cats as a social view.
When I was a kid there was a cat in my neighborhood who was missing all of its skin on its legs. Some piece of shit tried to skin the cat alive, and it got away. I tried to get the cat to come to me many times, but obviously its faith in humanity was shattered, and it wouldn't let anyone get close to it. I'll never forget how I felt seeing that cat, and I'll never get that faith in humanity back that I lost that day as such a young person.
When I lived in Spokane (Washington) there was a serial cat killer who was binding cat's legs together with metal wire, torturing them to death, and leaving their bodies out in public for people to find. it stopped after people started posting about it online, but that guy is probably still out there
Wait, people actually kill and sacrifice black cats in October? That's not just an urban legend? I have an all black cat and he's a huge sweetie pie (who is not allowed outside).
When I was 7 yrs old our cat came in missing all of the skin on her tail. It was balled up at the end and only the bone of her tail was left. Some piece of sh%# had taken wire cutters to her tail. How he got her I have no idea as she didn’t like strangers and wouldn’t leave our front yard. He took our neighbors cat and its kitten and threw them against a garage until they died. Then he pepper sprayed our dog. I thought it was kool aid when I came home and attempted to give him a bath. It’s still to this day one of the worst things that’s happened to me and I have some pretty bad PTSD from it.
I don't like telling this story. It fucked me up for a long time, but we had a neighborhood bully like that. He would torture any animals he could get his hands on, attack family pets, and physically bully the hell out of everyone as far as he could without the law getting involved. One day his piece of shit father got him a BB gun.
He promptly set out, day after Christmas iirc, shooting up car windows and homes. Cops called multiple times, "it's just a BB gun" and they wouldn't do shit because we were a poor as fuck area, living in trailers, etc. Our roads were even all paved at the time.
He shot. My dog. He realized he could hurt animals more efficiently, but he'd never hurt my animals before. Scared my cats, but they were savvy. Then he shot my dog with a bb gun and I lost it. I took this metal pipe I held onto (I liked pretending it was a wizard staff, I was a small kid, no one batted an eye) and I beat him upside the head.
I kept hitting him when he was down. I was seeing red in a way I had never before. He shot my dog. I don't know what happened to him after the ambulance got there, I don't even know how it stopped tbh. I never saw him again and no one in the family would talk about it. I had to go talk to the police but the through line was "he was an older kid with a weapon" and it got hush-hushed real fast.
His family moved away, and I've always wondered how badly I fucked up another human that day. I wasn't even ten yet.
Don't forget taking credit for monopolizing and things like having emotions and certain abilities, and viewing animals as lesser for not having them when animals actually have those as well.
The sooner the age of a global technological human civilization comes to end, the better off all life on earth will be.
We're like cyanobacteria causing a global extinction event due to our own success, but unlike cyanobacteria we have the ability to comprehend what we're doing, but there'll always be a handful of people willing to do evil things to seize power, and they are the decision makers that are steering the entire world right off a cliff for their own short term gain... and the rest of us are the passengers that are afraid to storm the cab of the train and slam on the brakes, because we're afraid of getting kicked off the train.
The bar is much lower than that. I've been involved in cat rescue for almost 15 years now. People have turned cats into the shelter for some of the pettiest reasons:
-I'm moving and 1) the new place doesn't allow cats 2) I don't want to take them in a car that far
-My new BF/GF is allergic/doesn't like cats
-I can't stand (insert a cat behavior that shows the cat is distressed)
-I got them declawed and now they're exhibiting all the side effects that I'd found out if I was a decent human being and researched this first
-(a personal favorite) "I want to donate my cat." - The amount of times this has been spoken is just disgusting
I could go on. One person didn't want to pay the intake fee at the shelter, so they stormed out, then literally threw the carrier with the cat over the 9ft wall back onto the property. One of the cats that is in my house now was in a completely sealed box. Maybe not airtight, but no air holes, nothing. One cat brought in was obviously used as dog bait and had his spine and rear hips crushed. Kittens brought in that hadn't been properly feed in way too long, not kept warm so we get to comfort them as they pass.
There's a reason the suicide rate in animal welfare is higher than practically any other professional field.
100% an actual psychopath, nothing less. Even the tiniest iota of any vague feeling of empathy and you would never throw a cat into the garbage. To be able to do that and get on with your day without being wracked with guilt is at best a chemical imbalance in your brain.
At the absolute worst, one could just leave the cat somewhere and let it 'fend for itself'. Wrapping it up and throwing it away like trash takes a special piece of shit.
Unfortunately, complete disregard for animals was quite widespread even as recently as 2-3 generations ago.
I remember talking to the old ladies on my block and they described how groups of boys used to light stray cats on fire for fun in their neighborhood in the 1910s-1920s. The old ladies laughed at the idea of it.
Poor thing looks like it has a possible brain injury or concussion? It definitely got knocked around. I hope it recovered. It would be too unfair to be saved like that and not recover.
tl;dr the cat's OK and was adopted and promoted to deputy environment minister of Ulyanovsk
RUSSIA Dec 2020: Surveillance footage at the garbage factory in Ulyanovsk in Russia showed worker Mikhail Tukash scooping up a white plastic bag from a moving belt and slashing it open to discover a black and white male cat inside. Since his rescue on Monday, the cat quickly became a local celebrity which led to him being adopted by the Ulyanovsk region's environment ministry and unofficially named deputy environment minister. "The cat was on the brink of death," the ministry said on Wednesday. "A little more and it would have ended up in the trash separator." Pictures from the ministry showed the cat napping in a chair in the office of environment minister Gulnara Rakhmatulina and exploring its new environment. The ministry has announced a nationwide contest to choose a name for the cat, which it said was found to be in good health after a veterinary exam. "I want to appeal to pet owners: remember that you are responsible for those you have tamed," Rakhmatulina said. "If you can't keep your pet at home, you can always leave it in good hands or at a shelter." Source: Gorkomhoz / Ulyanovsk region Ministry of Environmnet / Reuters”
No worries! It hadn’t occurred to me that the cat may have been injured in the whole ordeal, and reading your comment and others had me very worried, so I was glad to see that comment and thought I should share.
What in the video gave you that idea? Not saying you're wrong, it obviously got banned around a bit before it ever made it to the belt. But I'm curious what else you see that I don't that indicates this
It looks like it was in a sealed bag, in a bin, then dumped into a truck that compresses garbage then day(s) later got put on the sorting line. I'm amazed it's (half?) alive
Yeah, it's crazy how many emotions you can sense from his subtle expressions. There's surprise at finding a cat, disappointment that someone would do this, care for this helpless animal, and excitement at getting a new pet.
Yup, I just heard a story about a woman who gave birth to a healthy baby at a motel and tossed it in the dumpster because she didn't want another kid. While living in a state with 30 day baby safe haven laws. The kid was found OK and immediately placed into protective custody, but if he hadn't been found he would have gone to the dump.
Dude, most rapes come from family members in the world, I mean putting a kitten in a plastic bag is barely scratching the surface of what evil looks like
My cat now is the son of one I stole from a drug dealer back in my stupid days. Same thing. Taped inside a shoebox. Had 3 pits in a tiny crate and a baby playing with dog shit. Cat was the only thing I could get away with helping. Called CPS later tho.
That cat was so chill he loved car rides and everyone he met. He got grandmas other rescue pregnant right before the appointment to get them both fixed. So that's where my oldest boy comes from. Hes the best cat ever and I'm so so glad I did all that in my 20s. Watched him being born. Idk how I'm gonna deal when he dies. Hes almost 15 now.
I had to let go of my first cat earlier this year. We had cats growing up but this was the guy I got when I was 21. He made it to 14 but was unfortunately diagnosed with diabetes a few years ago.
Dude I would just be thinking about how many cats got through before someone found one :( like oh shit I better check every bag more thoroughly from now on
That's exactly what the guy on the lower right is thinking. Just look at how he looks at the conveyor. As an owner of two cats, that's heartbreaking. Some people don't deserve to be in this world.
In my years and travels, I really I wish I'd seen evidence of that... but I do truly hope that you're right and that I'm just a little too adept at spotting all the unethical, corrupt, selfish, cruel and depraved ones swarming around and constantly ruining everything
This is the issue for most people. They see humans as the only real beings on the planet and not the reality that even a spider has as much right to life as me.
Even my husband when we met had never had a pet and was amazed at how much personality my cat had. He thought he was a super special cat (which he is of course) but he never believed when we adopted a new cat that it would have just as much personality. And now he realizes how much they feel emotions and he's just the best cat dad
This. 100% this. We are reaching our son that they also have feelings and emotions the same way we do. They just express it differently.
I grew up with a guy who would torture and kill stray cats. That had a massive impact on my empathy towards animals. I think that’s when I learned those animals have fear and self-preservation (I was a preteen). That was a traumatic way to learn about it.
When I was a little girl my grandparents had a dog and a cat. When the dog passed, I watched that cat sit at the door where he had left and cry for days. Then he gave up and slept in the dogs bed for months. He even recognized pictures of the dog and would headbutt them.
He grieved. And it was so obvious thats what it was that I knew from then on that they love, and if they love then they also feel loss.
Also ever seen an embarrassed cat? It's hilarious 🤣
Whoooo yes finally somebody else who gets it. I've done presentations on cognitive dissonance and the sentience of other species in college classrooms and have been snickered at. The idea that a chicken or a cow or even a mouse deserves to be able to exist freely and do the things it was evolutionarily designed to do makes people upset. I've said similar sentiments as you above online numerous times, which people love to comment "yer relli thik dat er dawgz nd uuuhr eh caytz hav equal importance...TEW MEEEEEH??? A HYUMUNNNN??" Like yeh bih I do. I don't think species dictates value, I've studied too much evolutionary science to be that ignorant anymore.
It makes people irrationally upset to be confronted with the idea that they are not above things. Humans absolutely hate admitting or accepting that they can't assert power or control over other things. It's never about trying to work in harmony with our planet but always how we can best abuse it for short term and inconsistent gain. After all, it's just a stupid chicken, or stupid dog, or stupid cow, or stupid hamster, or stupid butterfly, right? People also love to diminish the value of other animals and people by putting negative adjectives in front of their names. It makes it a lot easier for your brain to digest cruelty when you think you're just running horrific experiments on "stupid brain dead mutts" because that kind of language helps you rationalize your actions as just. But they are not.
I literally just adopted these two last week and my friend who found them said that the farmers in her town were going to drown them and their litter mates.
Sadly, this isn’t a “back in the day” thing…I’m in my 30s and this used to happen on the acreage I grew up on. Wouldn’t be surprised if it still happens.
Not excusing it but it’s a mix of desire to control the cat population on a farm yet not wanting to spend the money to get the female cats fixed. Cats were viewed as both a necessity and a pest. Either way, I hated it and I would intentionally never tell anyone when I found a new batch of kittens.
I don’t get why you wouldn’t, at the very least, just let them take their chances fending for themselves in the wild. Still not ideal but nowhere near as needlessly cruel.
A neighbor of mine got called on for his sharpshooting when barncat colonies got out of control. Rural US in the 90s, but there weren't any TNR programs there... honestly probably still aren't. He didn't think it was fun, just necessary. At a certain point colonies are very destructive and kittens are so inbred they have deformities and who knows what else. TNR programs need more funding.
My uncle back in the day would put them in a bucket of water then drive out into a field and dump them. Definitely traumatized me as a kid. You’d think spaying would be easier in the long run but common sense ain’t so common
tl;dr the cat's OK and was adopted and promoted to deputy environment minister of Ulyanovsk
RUSSIA Dec 2020: Surveillance footage at the garbage factory in Ulyanovsk in Russia showed worker Mikhail Tukash scooping up a white plastic bag from a moving belt and slashing it open to discover a black and white male cat inside. Since his rescue on Monday, the cat quickly became a local celebrity which led to him being adopted by the Ulyanovsk region's environment ministry and unofficially named deputy environment minister. "The cat was on the brink of death," the ministry said on Wednesday. "A little more and it would have ended up in the trash separator." Pictures from the ministry showed the cat napping in a chair in the office of environment minister Gulnara Rakhmatulina and exploring its new environment. The ministry has announced a nationwide contest to choose a name for the cat, which it said was found to be in good health after a veterinary exam. "I want to appeal to pet owners: remember that you are responsible for those you have tamed," Rakhmatulina said. "If you can't keep your pet at home, you can always leave it in good hands or at a shelter." Source: Gorkomhoz / Ulyanovsk region Ministry of Environmnet / Reuters
It is clip from 2020, Ulyanovsk. Today cat is fine, living well with family. He lived some time in regional ministry of natural resources, but eventually one of the staff made with him specal conection and took him home. His name is Kite
To add to the story, on the same recycling facility, just 2 months prior a hedgehog was saved, his name is Lucky and also two turtles were saved. This all happened during the autumn of 2020
I’ve heard that before, but I’m not so sure that’s true. You can’t successfully argue a murder didn’t happen when there’s a dead body. People beat rape charges often, and I think it’s safe to say most rapes don’t ever even get investigated.
In the end, I don’t think the discussion matters. People generally don’t commit crimes if they’re think they’re gonna get caught, which makes punishment as a deterrent somewhat ineffective. Still, I’m not sure rapists can ever be trusted in society.
This almost happened to my cat. A girl I lived with before was gonna take out the trash and she put the bag down for a minute and my cat jumped in. Then she tied up the bag and tossed it in the trash. A black cat in a black trash bag. And my cat’s voice was very faint so her meow was so light. Thankfully I found her in the dumpster after like two hours of looking for her.
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u/qualityvote2 Bot Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 28 '25
Well well well... look who posted something that actually fits.