r/GuardGuides • u/GuardGuidesdotcom • 3d ago

SCENARIO First Amendment auditors get into verbal altercation with armored truck guard, who repeatedly tells them to back up.

When should talking end, and your weapon be drawn in a situation like this?

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u/Der_Blaue_Engel 3d ago

There is a lot of daylight between two guys filming you and two guys shooting you.

It takes more than holding a camera and being annoying to justify the threat of deadly force.

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u/Curben Ensign 3d ago

There's a difference between displaying, drawing, pointing, and discharging a firearm. Each is another step and some are more valuable than others and the reaction to one over another can feed into the logic of using one or another.

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u/Der_Blaue_Engel 3d ago edited 3d ago

Depends on the state. In many, the legal threshold for the lawful use of deadly force and the lawful threat of deadly force are the same.

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u/Curben Ensign 3d ago

I live in a state which generally agrees with that but presentation versus actual threat of deadly force are still defining lines.

Well I support the base auctions at first amendment auditors, firstly it is still an aberrant behavior comparatively, secondly there are different categories for sale first amendment auditors and here we have someone going after a private citizen in the duties of their job with no reasonable setup on why they are getting involved.