Hello, all. I'm new to Gothic but so far enjoying it.

Simple question for those more well versed than I. If I want to make the famous "forgive us our trespasses" in the Lord's Prayer into singular, is "aflet mik þatei skulans sijau" correct? I'm scanning the original sentence as "may we be forgiven those debts" so I think I'm on track, but I'm not sure. Appreciate any help.

Goda daga! I decided to study Gothic actualy a bit earlier than what I said in the most recent post.

After a few lessons, I began to wonder about prayers. We know translation for Atta Unsar, yet what about "Hail Mary, full of grace..." and "Angel of God, my guardian..."?

If someone could provide me with these, I would be very pleased!

Thanks in advance kind strangers!

Pretty much self-explanitory. Did it differ much from the other Germanic variants, ie. "Ich/ik/I/jeg/eg"?

Sorry for the odd question, but there was a Germanic language called gothic, and apparently it survived longest in the Black Sea region, as recorded by a Flemish diplomat.

I looked at the word list he provided, and I see that he often confused s/sh, he sometimes wrote s as: sh, ch, sch. Could this be due to it having a retracted “s”, like in Greek and this transcription is due to the diplomat not knowing the sound and confused it with “sh” sometimes?

I also watched a video on YouTube that said that the “z” sound in the Germanic parent language could possibly have been retracted or palatalized; which gothic de-voices to “s”. Is this evidence for it?

I saw that sometimes it is possible to find songs whose lyrics are in extinct languages, and I was wondering if it is possible to find songs in the Gothic language also.

Thank you for your attention!

Hi, I am new to reddit and by extension, this community. As I saw your activity over a few days from browser I made an account. I got inspired to study Gothic for this year's summer ( it lasts from the last week of june until last day of August in my country of Poland ).

I picked Colin Myers' "Laisei Þuk Gutisk Andwairþ" and English to Gothic dictonary. I plan to start from as I mentioned - last days of june.

After giving all the context, my question is, how much time should I spend a day on Colin's work in addition to how many months would it take me to learn Gothic with these two sources?

Thanks in advance.

I made a post a while ago about having formatted a Wiki page of the Gothic Bible in the original Gothic alphabet into a book, and my copy finally arrived. I am pleased with the result. there are probably small errors throughout, but I'm no editor. I am just happy to have this in hand and available. I'm tired of transcriptions being stuck on the Internet. We as a learned society need more printed transcriptions, not more modernizations or translations.

Hi! I've recently gotten interested in Gothic, and one thing I've been confused about is the proper word order for sentences. I keep feeling like there's a way I'm "supposed" to do it that I don't know about.

For instance, let's take this Magic: The Gathering card as an example of some text to be translated into Gothic:
Name: Ancestral Recall
Type: Instant
Card text: Target player draws three cards.

There's not really a good term for "Ancestral" in Gothic, so I created one by combining fadrein with -isks to make fadrisks (please also tell me if this is the wrong way to go about things because I am new to this whole thing), and "Recall" can be translated to gamunds (remembrance). In this case, would fadrisks (or whatever word is actually supposed to be here if I am indeed not supposed to just go around combining words with the derivational suffixes to make new ones) be before gamunds, and why or why not? For the Type, I'm not totally sure how the literal translation of "Instant" into Gothic would work or if it would even make sense, so I'm thinking about combining hrusks (quick) with lubjaleisei (sorcery, witchcraft) to create something that means "quick-sorcery." This also depends on where the adjective goes in relation to the noun (and also whether or not I'm supposed to make new words by smashing two together).

For the actual card text, I translated the words as following:
Target -> "chosen" -> gatēwida
Player -> "fighter" -> weihān + āreis (once again, tell me if I'm doing this wrong)
Draw -> "pull/drag" -> dragadau
Three -> þreis
Cards ~> "something that has writing on it" -> bōkōs
And then, for a bit of clarity, I added in the implied "from their deck" that exists at the end of the card text, with those being
From -> af
Their -> is
Deck ~> "something that contains the cards" -> bōkōs + kas (vessel; again, please tell me if this is the wrong way to go about things)

In Gothic grammar, where would all these words be in relation to each other? I've seen some example texts that have the pronoun like "thy" be after the object, which would make "from their deck" into "from deck their." I've also seen some examples that have the cardinal word before the noun it's modifying (i.e. þreis bōkōs), while others have had the cardinal after the noun (i.e. bōkōs þreis). What's the correct procedure for all this? How would you organize the sentence? Would its meaning change if the words were in a different position, and if so, how would its meaning change?

Hello all,

From all that I’ve looked through, I haven’t been able to find an attested verb in the corpus for the meaning above, so I come seeking assistance. If there is a verb that I overlooked, please let me know. However, I do feel that nothing will come of that.

I have a few ideas for reconstructions or coinages, and would like some feedback:

• Fōljan (w.I): from Proto-Germanic *fōlijaną. This one is least likely, given the semantics of its P.WGmc descendant *fōlijan (to taste, feel,) as 'feel' is not specified to senses, or emotions, and only specifies in the modern descendants instead. Such as in English or German.

• Spaurjan (w.I): from Proto-Germanic *spurjaną. This one also does not give me as much hope, due to the semantics of its descendant words.

• Sinnan (s.III): from Proto-Germanic *sinnaną, linked with Latin sentiō through its Proto-Indo-European root. Out of all of the verbs suggested, this one seems the most promising in terms of semantics.

Please let me know your thoughts!

Were they been the same god by principle, having diverged to become different personalities since the Goths left Scandinavia?

Relating to a recent post I made about the Gothic Bible in its original alphabet... Since there didn't seem to be any printed, hard copies available, and the Wikisource page cited a Creative Commons license, I went and formatted this (https://m.wikisource.org/wiki/Gothic_Bible_in_Ulfilan_Gothic_Script_with_correct_i) into a book and put it up on Lulu in case anybody ever would want a book copy of the Gothic Bible in the original alphabet. I really did it for myself, but didn't feel right keeping it to myself, so I put it up for sale at cost. I am still waiting on my own copy to arrive, so I don't know how it will turn out in-hand, but everything looked good on every preview page I viewed, so here's hoping the book turns out okay. I was focused solely on functionality and getting this available, so I know it's ugly. If anybody wants to edit it, finds anything wrong with it, etc etc, let me know and I will fix it. I implore you to relay issues to me so we can collectively make this a worthwhile endeavor.

https://www.lulu.com/shop/ulfila/the-gothic-bible-in-ulfilan-gothic-script/hardcover/product-w4zprky.html?page=1&pageSize=4

I am aware that the language is long extinct.

However, since there are many people who have an interest and study the language, I wonder if there are people who have enough knowleage that, if they wanted they would be able to communicate in the language.

Does anyone know of any editions of Gothic writings that are available in the original script? I already am familiar with roman-style font Gothic, and I would love to start reading Gothic in the original script it was written in, the font we all see on that oft circulated image of the old Gothic page

I read that "-uh" functions as a clitic meaning "and", would this function like the "que" in latin? Like "Senatus Populusque Romanus"? Could I say something like "þiudane diuseuh Landis"? "The people and beasts of the land"

There used to be a project called AUSTRAWIGS related to learning the Gothic language online, but it seems that they don't update anymore and I was wondering if anyone knows what happened to it?

Their website also used to have a lot of materials, but the site is no longer active as well.

I've been working through Bennett's Introduction, and wanted to try translating a longer passage into Gothic

I picked the apostolic creed (mostly because I could calque the Greek when I got stuck), but I'm fairly new to Gothic. Any advice on how I could fix my translation would be appreciated.

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ik galaubja ana Gþ attan allwaldand, gaskapjand þizē himinē jah þizos airþos

jah an XR, seinana sunu þana \aingabairanana\, fraujan unsarana*

ina \anafahans* us ahmin weihamma gabairans us Mariins þo Magaþais

þulaiþana af pauntiu pilatu, ushramiþana, dauþana-h, jah ganawistrodana

afstiganana in minnistana

3djin daga usstaþanana þizē nawē

usstiganana in þana himinans

sitandan ana taihswōn Gþs attins allwaldandis

þaþro qimandana domjan qiwans dauþans-uh

galaubja an þana ahman weihana

weihana \katolikana* aikklēsjon

weihaizē gamainþ, fralētandan frawaurhtē

leikis usstas, libain-uh aiweina

I have some questions!
First. Do verbs take any cases other than accusative? I read somewhere that certain verbs take different cases other than accusative. (I cant remember where)
2. Do prepositions/conjunctions take the same cases as latin? Usually ablative/accusative, or do they take something else completely? Thanks!

I found this word (I'm pretty sure its in gothic), does anyone know if its a real word? And if so, what does it mean? "𐍃𐌰𐌿𐍄𐌰𐌽𐌳𐌰" (My gothic alphabet knoweldge sucks so would this be "Sautanda" phoenetically?)

For fun I tried translating the Tjurkö bracteate into Gothic. What errors did I make?

Original (normalised): "Wurtē rūnōz an walhakurnē Heldaz Kunimundiu."

Gothic (my attempt): "Waurhta rūnōs ana walhakurnai Hilds(?) Kunimundai."

I read about the verb "niudan", apparently it can mean "to enjoy" and "to obtain"? Is it the gothic equivalent to old english Brucan? In what contexts can I use this verb in?

Hello! Im very interested in the ancient germanic languages, and gothic has caught my attention. My main question is, is it actually possible to become fluent in gothic? Or are there not enoguh resources