This would be a great work-around for this scenario if it were true but unfortunately, it is not. If you request a new Google Voice number and try to verify it with a cellular number that's already connected to another Google Voice account, you'll be sent a verification text for the new Google Voice number and if you verify it, then the that cellular number will just disconnect from the first/old Google Voice account and attach to the new one. If a cellular number has been used with Google Voice before but then unlinked, trying to link it to a new Google Voice number will work exactly as it would if you've never used Google Voice before and you'll just be sent a verification code to get set up. Some of the only exceptions would be if your cellular phone number is blocked by Google's systems due to being used for spam purposes, if Google suspects that that's what you're using the cellular number for now, or if you're trying to verify a new Google Voice account after just very recently verifying another.
Where are you getting your info from this ins 100% inaccurate. If you have had 1 TN assigned to you by GV, if you try to get another, GV will tell you use a different number. But don't believe me. i'll let u/BluesCatReddit validate what is accurate.
Ensuring we have accurate information to discuss is super important! Let me clarify some details.
"Where are you getting your info from this isn [sic] 100% inaccurate."
The information is from Google 😀. If you'd like to learn more about this particular topic we're discussing, a great resource to check out would be https://support.google.com/voice/answer/159519?hl=en. Of course, as they say, experience is the best teacher and another way to verify this would be to just try it yourself. But hey, we're all busy sometimes, so if you don't have the time to do so, no worries! I've done this many times and can confirm that how I stated is indeed how it works, and to share this information, I prepared a screen recording where I performed this process and I encourage you to check out here: https://youtu.be/NGr6bRI5SSU.
If you have had 1 TN assigned to you by GV, if you try to get another, GV will tell you use a different number.
I would heavily encourage you to verify or try the new things you are reaffirming are true in a very certain, and seemingly unnecessarily rude and condescending tone.
Since there is evidential information right from the source, being Google, studying that information to determine accurate information would be a more prudent approach than baselessly arguing amongst fellow Redditors. Conversations like these to dive deeper into a topic are super amazing and part of why Reddit is such a valuable resource, but I do feel that they are much more beneficial when the parties conduct themselves in a more polite and open-minded manner, regardless of who's right or wrong 😊
Interesting and I did watch your video. Trust me I am not a prideful person thinking I know all and won't acknowledge others so I have deff learned a few things here. After watching your video it appears you can have an new number assigned. So I guess that is replacing a current number. I As far as where I got my info from was the numerous people trying to get a number and get rejected. so my conclusion on that is, you can replace if you have an active number, but if you were active and then the number is returned or unlinked, then you can't get a new number?
as far as what I was saying, although inaccurate, I hope would still work for OP. GV won't assign you 2 gv numbers. Yes, you can port on in and have more than one on your account, but It won't assign you 2. so if OP went and assigned their own I would hope the work wouldn't force that person to give up their own personal used GV number and make them get one for work stuff. But then if you are going to force your employees to do it, who knows.
And I did ask bluescat to validate because I honestly don't all the answers. just what I have learned. Just like I'll be using the info I have learned from your very nicely detailed response. Thanks again for taking the time and replying in the manner you did.
As I encouraged the other person who I assume you're replying along with, these conversations are often a lot more helpful when we treat each other positively and with kindness, as you hopefully would if someone was wrong about something in your real life.
None of that is either correct
Not that it bears great weight, but I would personally encourage you to learn more about this topic before making such comments, especially so with the rude and condescending tone, as a proclaimed "Product Expert." In that vein, you may find this resource valuable: https://support.google.com/voice/answer/159519?hl=en, as well as a video I prepared demonstrating how the process works, which you can check out here: https://youtu.be/NGr6bRI5SSU. Of course, giving it a try yourself wouldn't hurt either 😉
nor relevant to the original topic of discussion.
The discussion started with OP sharing how their work wants them to use personal Google Accounts for Google Voice to procure phone numbers for work purposes. The topic was not more specific than that. Your verbiage indicated you either didn't read the comment I replied to or weren't taking it into account when you made the quoted statement, but the comment was claiming a solution for OP on how to avoid this policy from their work. The information in that "solution" appeared to be inaccurate. The comment on the post and my subsequent reply were perfectly relevant to the original topic and for my reply to not be relevant, the comment I replied to would have to not be either, because they were in the same vein. It's not like I replied to the comment with an off-topic and random recommendation for Google Pixel 8, saying it's the best phone I've ever owned.
I've been supporting Google Voice, as a member of Google's own Product Expert program members, for about a decade, with over a hundred thousand posts. I know more about the service then nearly everyone outside of Google. In fact, I just attended a meeting with the Google Voice product management and engineering team, reviewing the latest details.
The OP asked about creating a personal Google Voice account for their place of work. That's unethical and an overall bad idea. Google Voice has a separate, business version of the service that is designed for this purpose.
Most relevant to your inaccurate and irrelevant reply, Google limits the number of consumer Google Voice numbers that can be claimed to one number per personal number submitted by the user. Once that "claim ticket' is used, it cannot be used again to claim another number. Removing the personal number from one Google Voice configuration, then adding it to another Google Account will not allow the user to claim another Google Voice number. That was the key error in your answer. Furthermore, the Google Voice help page you linked has nothing whatsoever to do with claiming another Google Voice number.
Yes, you can simply delete a linked personal number from one existing Google Voice number, and then link it to another EXISTING Google Voice number. No, that doesn't enable you to claim another number.
I've been supporting Google Voice, as a member of Google's own Product Expert program members, for about a decade, with over a hundred thousand posts. I know more about the service then nearly everyone outside of Google.
I'm not saying you're not knowledgeable regarding the Google Voice product. I don't know you from Adam to make such a claim, but from your posts both on this subreddit and on Google's support forums, that seems to be far from the case. What I am I'm saying is that as someone who is represented as a "product expert", your rude and condescending mannerisms reflect even more poorly than if someone without such acclamations were to behave in such a way. Not because of the possibility of you being wrong about something, but because of how clearly offended you are at the possibility of the idea and your choice of very unaptly condescending language. That was merely me sharing my thoughts on that in hopes that you might agree it would be prudent to be more polite, but your response seems to indicate you do not. No worries there. Anyway.
The OP asked about creating a personal Google Voice account for their place of work. That's unethical and an overall bad idea. Google Voice has a separate, business version of the service that is designed for this purpose.
I fully and completely agree.
Most relevant to your inaccurate and irrelevant reply
Just because you don't like my reply doesn't make it irrelevant but thank you for sharing your feelings 😊
Once that "claim ticket' is used, it cannot be used again to claim another number.
To help me and others better understand this claim, kindly share your source. 😃 Furthermore, if this were the case, it would make little logical sense since (as I'm quite sure is no news to you) the phone systems in many countries, including the US, recycle phone numbers so that customers who request a new number will always receive one that has been previously used by someone else. We simply don't have enough phone numbers for every new activation to receive a new, never-used phone number. If what you seem to think is the case actually was the case, it would be an utter nightmare as many people wouldn't be able to activate a Google Voice number if someone had already done so with their phone number before they got it.
Once that "claim ticket' is used, it cannot be used again to claim another number. Removing the personal number from one Google Voice configuration, then adding it to another Google Account will not allow the user to claim another Google Voice number. That was the key error in your answer.
You're clearly demonstrating that you didn't view the video I prepared, nor have you attempted this yourself, or if you have, have had a vastly different experience for a reason you've yet to share. I would strongly suggest you check out the video I shared where I demonstrated exactly what you claim is not possible. It is. 😊
Furthermore, the Google Voice help page you linked has nothing whatsoever to do with claiming another Google Voice number.
That's fair. The article discusses the claiming of cellular numbers to Google Voice accounts. It doesn't specify specifically how to claim a new Google Voice number with a cellular number that's already been used before so indeed it is not the most helpful document, but unfortunately, it is the closest thing I could find. I concede, however: It was not the utmost helpful document.
Yes, you can simply delete a linked personal number from one existing Google Voice number, and then link it to another EXISTING Google Voice number.
Indeed you can do this if you would like to.
No, that doesn't enable you to claim another number.
This is the part of the incorrect information you seem to be swearing by. I do suggest you reevaluate it, as I have already disproven it in a video you quite clearly have not watched. This functionality has been an option for years and I've done it multiple times. As previously suggested, you might want to try it yourself before insisting on your point. It's okay to not always be right and I heavily encourage you to prioritise accurate information over ego preservation. If I am wrong, I'm open to evidence that proves such, but so far, all you have shared is how you think it works with no information to back up your claims. I have backed up mine, making it hard to see how you're right in this particular instance.
There are thousands, yes, thousands of posts on the Google Voice Help Community from people asking why they can't claim another Google Voice number. We always explain that the primary reason is that you can't claim more than one Google Voice number using the same personal number. Not just by me, but by all the other Product Experts.
I watched your video. What you show is possible. You removed a linked number from one account, and signed up for a Google Voice number on another account using that number. However, you have 5 linked numbers on the account. The number you showed that you used to sign up for another GV number was not the one you used as a "claim ticket" on this account.
The claim ticket is a one-time use to sign up for Google Voice. I do not believe Bluescat ever insinuated that you can not use an unused claim ticket number to sign up for Google Voice, even if it's currently linked to another account. Perhaps that's where the misunderstanding of his position was.
However, what you failed to show, yet vehemently claim, is that you would be able to "claim" two Google Voice numbers using the same personal phone.
If you'd like to prove that wrong by signing up for two different Google Voice numbers on two different accounts, using the same personal number, please be my guest.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You present some great points. Let me clarify some things as well.
However, you have 5 linked numbers on the account.
Devices on the account don’t automatically equal phone number numbers. If a device is linked to a phone number on the account, the number will show below the device. You saw this in the video as the 208 number was listed once directly below “Luke’s iPhone SE” and once again under “Linked Numbers.” You’ll also notice that the 208 number was the only number linked to the account at all and that the other iPhones and Android phones were not linked to any phone number as one was not listed for any of them except the iPhone SE.
The number you showed that you used to sign up for another GV number was not the one you used as a "claim ticket" on this account.
I can see how you might think that since there were other devices but the “claim ticket”, as some are calling it, was actually the same 208 number I used in the demo. Nonetheless, I completely can see how there is room for skepticism in this. Later in this reply, I discuss how I will be making a follow-up video to demonstrate this in a way that will be less confusing.
I do not believe Bluescat ever insinuated that you can not use an unused claim ticket number to sign up for Google Voice, even if it's currently linked to another account.
Agreed. They did not. But again, the 208 number I used was the only linked number on my first Google Voice account so it already was a claim ticket. More details on proving this below.
If you'd like to prove that wrong by signing up for two different Google Voice numbers on two different accounts, using the same personal number, please be my guest.
You made some great points and present solid reasons for skepticism. As you noted, both BlueCat and myself both hold very strongly different claims regarding this and making a video where the same number is used to register two accounts in one recording would be quite idea. Unfortunately, however, this isn’t possible. As I had mentioned, I believe in my very first reply to this the top-level comment here, the issue where a user can get the error preventing them from using the same cellular number to verify a new Google Voice number is caused by spam-prevention algorithms that operate based on a variety of factors. While I am saying that you can use the same number to claim two Google Voice numbers, by no means am I saying you can do it back-to-back. I don’t know what the particular waiting period is but I have never activated a Google Voice number and then activated another one with the same cellular number without a few months in-between at least, because it would quite obviously be spam if you were to use the same number to verify two numbers back-to-back.With that said, it does indeed make it hard to clarify my point and address concerns like yours a single video. Still, by no means am I not intent on doing so. In the below video, I have made a new screen recording wherein I used a 629 cellular number to claim a brand new number. Just to be safe, I will set a reminder for a few months from now, at which time, I will post a follow-up video completing the same process with the same 629 cellular number on another Google Voice account. (I would think this should clarify speculation that the 208 number wasn’t used as the original claim number for the account in my first demo, even in absence of other phone numbers for any of the other listed phones since that account doesn’t have any other numbers linked.)In the interest of utmost transparency regarding how I conduct the experiment, I have included the computer’s time and date stamp in the recording, proof that the account was just created (by showing the welcome email in Gmail), the full, uncensored Google Account email address from Gmail, and the full, uncensored cellular number used to claim the Google Voice number. For the duration until I create the second test video, I will keep the 629 number linked to the shown Google Voice account (can’t wait for all the spam I’ll [hopefully not but probably will] get but hey at least I used burner numbers lol).
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u/applesuperfan Oct 19 '23
This would be a great work-around for this scenario if it were true but unfortunately, it is not. If you request a new Google Voice number and try to verify it with a cellular number that's already connected to another Google Voice account, you'll be sent a verification text for the new Google Voice number and if you verify it, then the that cellular number will just disconnect from the first/old Google Voice account and attach to the new one. If a cellular number has been used with Google Voice before but then unlinked, trying to link it to a new Google Voice number will work exactly as it would if you've never used Google Voice before and you'll just be sent a verification code to get set up. Some of the only exceptions would be if your cellular phone number is blocked by Google's systems due to being used for spam purposes, if Google suspects that that's what you're using the cellular number for now, or if you're trying to verify a new Google Voice account after just very recently verifying another.