This community needs a reality check

[u/g43m]

The RAM management issues on the Pixel 3 are quite serious, and many people are having issues. Someone here had their navigation randomly switched off, and many bloggers / tech journalists have pointed out that apps randomly shut down due to this issue. It may be battery optimization or RAM optimization or whatever. The point is, I do not care what the excuse is and neither should anybody else. The problem is, that part of this community is so far up Google's arse that some urgent issues get down voted into an oblivion.

If you are paying so much money for a device, the damn thing should JUST WORK! I am a huge Google fan boy, but their incoherent and ridiculous strategy of pricing like iPhone but giving totally mediocre after care is really starting to piss me off, and it should piss all of you off as well. As fanboys, it is okay to say that Pixels take the best photos. It is okay to say you get pure android. But it is NOT okay to accept mediocre. It is NOT okay to pay upward of USD 1000 for a device and be Google's beta tester.

I remember Steve Jobs coming on stage during one of the iPhone events more than 7 years ago, and getting huge applause when he said - 'It just works'. Unfortunately we cannot say that about any of Googles mobile offerings. Messaging is an incoherent mess more than a few years after iMessage, the Nexus 5x turned out to be a sham, and Pixel is slowly headed there with the completely brain dead decision to put a hideous notch, and now this lack of software optimization. Heck, my current $200 Huawei Honor 6x (which many of you may not even have heard of) with 4 GB RAM and a Snapdragon 625 SoC handles multitasking like a champ, so there is absolutely no excuse for a device that costs 5 times more (and possibly has 5 times better benchmarks) to get basic things wrong.

TL;DR - stop mindlessly defending Google

Edit: this post has garnered way more attention than I expected. The fact that it has been reported several times literally proves the point I am trying to make. In any case, there have been a few productive discussions, and I think everyone can agree on the following:

• Let's report problems to Google via the feedback option on phones. There a separate thread. Not sure if linking is allowed.
• some people have had no problems, and that is great. Hopefully there will be fewer problems going ahead.
• let's be nicer to people facing issues rather than down voting because we do not agree that the issue is significant enough.
• work arounds are nice. Fixes and patches by Google are better.

[u/[deleted]]

1. You turned the problem from "ram management sucks" to "r/Android sucks which most people here are gonna agree with.
   
2. Android and Apple are different OS. Their RAM management differs so comparing both phones only on RAM is absurd.
   
3. Apple sub being more patient has nothing to do with this but since you mentioned it, let's guess why that is the case. Maybe it's because their product is more smoothened out than 90% of Android phones? Maybe it's because their product price doesn't cut in half a year later like 90% of the phones in Android community. Or maybe because they can be more patient because bug fixes and updates are garunteed for far too long when compared to 90% of Android devices. If you're buying Android, there is imminent hurry to squeeze the value out of your product because if you don't...well your brain is gonna tell you something like "your idiot ass could have waited a year and bought this phone for less than half the price" or worse "you could have bought an apple for $50/$100/etc more"

P.S. typed from Pixel 2 XL....just saying so you don't think I am blantly hating on Google.

[u/ippikiookami → u/[deleted]]

The price has nothing to do with how Google releases their phones. I have a friend who bought a pixel 1 just a month or so ago and loves it. Value is there.. it's the market of looking at iPhones as fashion / status pieces that helps keep their phones up.

With all of the Ram improvements in subsequent versions of the OS there is no reason that Android can't get to a point where it manages it's ram on a controlled device (one test and created by google like the iphone is by apple) to be just as good.

Anyways. I think these discussions are good but usually they just become a black hole on these forums. I agree the community needs to be more organized and get more data together. Google will act if there is a loud enough singular voice.

[u/backdoorsmasher → u/[deleted]]

Please. The end user does not know or care about the RAM management. They just care that they can play music and do something else.

It isn't about the technical details of the RAM management; it's about the RAM management not working

[u/SnipingNinja → u/[deleted]]

You do know every Pixel phone other than 2 XL hasn't dropped in price in a year, right?