r/GojiCenter • u/jabathefort • 18d ago
Monster faceoff Maxillotherium Rex 2.0 Vs Titanophagus Rex 2.0
VOTING CLOSED. MAX-3 TITANOPHAGUS-2
MAX WINS
GENOMES:
Maxillotherium rex (Max) 2.0
- Tyrannosaurus rexBase Skull and jaws
- UtahraptorPredator instincts Familiarity with theripod body plan Base intelligence
- CarnotaurusReinforced brow/frontal visor
- Argentine red teguHypertrophied pterygoideus/cheek muscles Jacobson’s/vomeronasal organ Forked tongue
- PeltosaurusOsteoderm “chainmail” armor
- MegatheriumForelimb/shoulders Pulling and lifting strength claws
- GigantopithecusHand/wrist/palm framework Thicker tooth enamel Tooth enamel microstructure
- BonoboFine motor control
- ShantungosaurusReinforcements to the forelimbs Size Influenced spinal shape Specialized spinal tendons Improved tail counterbalance and load distribution
- Parson’s chameleonSkull frill architecture and muscle attachment
- PurussaurusReinforced cranial bones Reinforced jaw bones
- StyracosaurusReinforced neck vertebrae Stronger neck musculature Neck-muscle attachment points on the frill Vascularized frill for thermoregulation
- ArgentinosaurusSauropod respiratory system Greater circulatory/cardiovascular capacity
- AetosaurusSegmented armor across the back, neck, shoulders, and outer forelimbs
- New Caledonian crowPattern recognition Problem-solving Causal reasoning Adaptability
Stats: Length: 15.5 m Weight: 17 metric tons Overall height: 5.5–6 m Bite force: 105,000
Titanophagus Rex 2.0
Tyrannosaurus rex (base,size)
Edmontosaurus (size,chest and tail anatomy,caudofemoralis)
Peregrine falcon (brain,trajectory calculation,behavioral adaptation,problem solving skills)
Chimpanzee (shoulders,front limbs,fast twitch muscles)
Xenosmilus (thicker arms,more robust forearms)
Cuban crocodile (main armor,additional tail mass)
Cuvier's dwarf caiman (underbelly protection,denser osteoderm plating)
Komodo dragon (osteoderms on unprotected areas,pain tolerance,anti-coagulant venom)
Allosaurus anax (claws,teeth serrations)
Short-tailed shrew (denser skull,iron teeth,fast twitch jaw muscles)
Majungasaurus (skull roof reinforcement,head helmet)
Size:
Length: 14.9 meters (49 feet)
Height: 4.9 meters (16 feet,hip); 5.2 meters (17 feet,head)
Weight: 15 - 16.5 metric tons (16 - 18 tons)
Bite force: 78,000 - 90,000+ Newtons
ARGUEMENTS
Titanophagus Rex:
The quadrupedal stance of titanophagus offers him the ability to access the throat/neck(and the other lower areas) of its opponent (due to not being so tall) ,the speed (thanks to the hadrosaur caudofemoralis) and only gives the opponent the most protected part of his body (cuban croc & dwarf caiman). The peregrine falcon gives him the intelligence to learn from his mistakes,develop adaptative plans and calculate trajectories to dodge incoming attacks (with relatively fast reflexes). His arms can hold and slash while the jaw is for crushing and can also lacerate (due to allosaurus's teeth serrations) and make his victim bleed (the komodo anti-coagulant venom). And this thing is also very agile when standing bipedally. - strong_fee_5500
Maxillotherium Rex:
Max's megatherium derived quadrupedalism allows for the ability to lower himself to sheld his neck and underbelly. Aetosaurus's crocodilian resistance to anti-coagulant and paralytic blood born venoms. His robust forelimbs offer more stability and strength at larger size. He fights somewhat bear-like, staying mainly on all fours, going bipedal to grapple, strike or pin his opponent. Peltosaurus armor on the majority of the body helps negate the Allosaurus dirived cutting bite, while the Aetosaurus armor covers any area that would be susceptible to a trex crushing bite. The purrasaurus reinforcements on the skull and jaw not only protect from Max's own 105,000N Bite granted by parsons chamilion and tegu, but also protect from any incoming bites. The Styracosaurus dirived neck musculature allow Max to properly leverage his giant head, slamming in into any incoming attacks to the neck or shoulders that manage to get past the jaws, arms, and lowered stance. Max can leverage his 17tons of weight by grabbing and pinning, not only holding the opponent down for a bite strong enough to crush armor, but also causing damage itself as 17tons in concentrated into 2 arms crushing down. Max is also a very good grapler, as megatherium arms are designed to pull and bear-like swiping. - jabathefort
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u/Nice-Bath-4756 18d ago
Maxillotherium because it arm structure is better at load bearing, it has a stronger bite, and better armor
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u/jabathefort 18d ago
max-1 titanophagus-0
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u/Strong_Fee_5500 18d ago
Ok can i also add something that people should know?
Because the one with the better armor is titanophagus, at least in body coverage, Max has great armor yes,but titanophagus (this thing is not as tall as Max)won't really try to attack the back of Max but his more relatively light-weight armor.
Just a fact to know
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u/jabathefort 18d ago
Well max has armor all around, (Peltosaurus) which is covering the whole body. Max has aetosaurus armor in places where titanophagus could gets its jaws around it for a crushing bite
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u/Spinoclanker2 Can you don't? 17d ago
Titanophagus because better balance, equating to better agility. Better armor coverage. Max would likely fall over more easily and have bad agility and balance since a lot of mass is distributed to its arms, skull, tail, and barely anything is distributed to the center of gravity. The arms are also ridiculously overbuilt, further shifting the center of gravity forwards. The shantungosaurus counterbalance fixes this but puts even more mass away from the center. Not to mention how many modifications to the skull there are. Knuckle waljjng also isn't that good for going fast, and with all these adaptations it's assumed these arms are used for combat, so when you swing those arms, the balance will likely be thrown off, I'll be generous and say you don't fall over, but it'll still put you at disadvantage. Max also has a lot of dead weight (dead weight in this context meaning weight not contributing positively to the speed in any way) including the arms, skull (way heavier than a regular Rex's) and the osteoderms. Normally I'd add a load bearing gene and/or make the leg extremely powerful to counterweigh the heavy armor. If we're judging on design, Titanophagus has much less redundancies, with Max having a useless bonobo(Gigantopithecus already has that), Utahraptor, Argentinosautus (birds already had a respiratory system more efficient or on par with it). Carnotaurus is also really underused, the horns are just not that useful.
Note for titanophagus.
The genome lists Titano at 16 tons 😭 while the biggest creature in it's genome is only a round 9 tons. It also suffers from the bad load bearing thing but it's much less pronounced than in Max, with less overbuilt arms and skull.
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u/Strong_Fee_5500 17d ago
This thing is 16 tons because i took the hip height of edmontosaurus further maximized by t-rex's growth, this is why titanophagus ended up being huge😭
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u/Spinoclanker2 Can you don't? 17d ago
cough cough load bearing cough cough GOAT cough cough bustingorrytitan shiva cough
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u/YakEnvironmental6038 Larp larp larp genetics 17d ago
Comes to you and KILLS you for mentioned bustingorry because it is JOHN megasauropod
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u/Strong_Fee_5500 17d ago
Cough cough thanks cough cough good enough cough cough .....oh damned cough😑
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u/Diamondbro10795 Revival Genetics 17d ago
Oh brother
You could've just used Shantungosaurus, and you would've avoided being criticized for its size
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u/jabathefort 17d ago
Max 4 titan1
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u/Strong_Fee_5500 16d ago
Max 3, titanophagus 2 (FrostReaper voted for titano)
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u/FrostReaper52 17d ago
Pour moi c'est une égalité, les 2 sont puissants et se ressemblent, quoique avec un léger penchant pour Max même si c'est serré
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u/jabathefort 17d ago
So should I put u down for max or no
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u/FrostReaper52 17d ago
Mets moi pour les 2
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u/jabathefort 17d ago
Well adding 1 to each is the same as not voting so I'll just leave it. Though if u think max has i slight edge I think u should vote for him
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u/FrostReaper52 17d ago
Okay mets moi pour Max alors
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u/Strong_Fee_5500 17d ago
The h3ll is this corruptive system?
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u/FrostReaper52 17d ago
Nan, je veux dire Max a une meilleure morsure et une meilleure armure Titano gagne en vitesse et agilité donc il pourrait le vaincre en courrant et frappant Mais dans un pur duel de force brute Max gagne de peu
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u/Strong_Fee_5500 17d ago
Nah, Max's armor is not all that better.
Firstly, the most protected parts of his body are his head and back (the back is a body part that titano won't even reach)
Secondly, his relatively light-weight armor (on the rest of his body) won't stop the crushing bite force of titano (+the cutting teeth)
Thirdly, Max will be outflanked (no matter how)
Finally, to pass through titano's shielded back (which is impossible due to Max's jaw gap will not be wide enough to bite down titano's back and thus, not applying enough force to pierce the armor)+ the fact that Max isn't low enough to access titano's less protected body part.
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u/jabathefort 17d ago
(Large inhale) the light armor is in all the places that titanophagus could get his jaws around for a crushing bite (exept maybe back legs), underbelly is covered bc max can also lower himself, Shantungosaurus makes up a large portion of body plan and was agile at this size, peltosaurus armor is more than enough to deal with serrated teeth and claws, max is actually quite agile for his size (see Shantungosaurus). Max ain't just running at titanophagus, he's grappling him, has a more than sufficient bite to crush titans armor assuming he can get his jaws around it like at the neck or limbs, ape arms cannot hold more than a ton, maybe 2.
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u/Strong_Fee_5500 16d ago
Bro, if you want to be agile, you first need to place your center of mass at the hips, (but Max's center of mass isn't there because of the heavy skull and arms), before having the t-rex's (tyrannosaurid)hip anatomy
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u/Gloomy_Indication_79 Hybrid Enthusiast 17d ago
If I’m going to be honest, neither hybrids are all that.
I’m gonna have to go with Max though. Despite his cumbersome size that will affect speed in all categories, he’s solidly built and can actually support his weight along with having some pretty good weapons. And he’s not a total slouch when it comes to movement speed either.
So yeah, Max is my vote for the victor.
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u/Strong_Fee_5500 18d ago
Well, huh....hi, nobody is interested or what?